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I almost checked out of Amazon with a set of Aramith balls but I noticed they were made of POLYESTER. How common are polyester Aramith balls. Price was over $200 plus tax. I thought all Aramith balls were phenolic resin.

Aramith 11-111 2-1/4" Regulation Size Premier Billiard/Pool Balls, Complete 16 Ball Set https://a.co/d/9pY3R4p
 
RD123 said:
I almost checked out of Amazon with a set of Aramith balls but I noticed they were made of POLYESTER. How common are polyester Aramith balls. Price was over $200 plus tax. I thought all Aramith balls were phenolic resin.

Aramith 11-111 2-1/4" Regulation Size Premier Billiard/Pool Balls, Complete 16 Ball Set https://a.co/d/9pY3R4p
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Not Aramith if polyester. Misprint. The Premier's are phenolic.
 
RD123 said:
I almost checked out of Amazon with a set of Aramith balls but I noticed they were made of POLYESTER. How common are polyester Aramith balls. Price was over $200 plus tax. I thought all Aramith balls were phenolic resin.

Aramith 11-111 2-1/4" Regulation Size Premier Billiard/Pool Balls, Complete 16 Ball Set https://a.co/d/9pY3R4p
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Premier balls over 200$ is a scam... They suck compared any good quality aramiths..

Edit:
Checked Finnish net store and Stock price is 129€
If i order those i also get 15% off... so
www.biljardikauppa.fi

Aramith Premier Ball Set (Pool)

Aramith Premier 57,2 mm. High-quality, durable ball set from the leading manufacturer in billiard balls.
www.biljardikauppa.fi www.biljardikauppa.fi
 
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I used to work at a pro shop since I was 12….by 14, I was buying the top golf balls….my buddies asked ‘Why?’
…I told them if my ball ended up in the rough, I wanted to know it was me who put it there.
 
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rexus31 said:
Don't buy pool balls on Amazon. There's too high a risk they are counterfeit.

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Aramith should make their balls a little more identifiable. I have a set of Aramith balls but there is no indication they are Aramith. Just the fact I bought them at the local billiards store and it says Aramith on the box. Simonis has security built into their cloth, Aramith should do the same. It would at least make it a little harder to counterfeit.
 
RD123 said:
Aramith should make their balls a little more identifiable. I have a set of Aramith balls but there is no indication they are Aramith. Just the fact I bought them at the local billiards store and it says Aramith on the box. Simonis has security built into their cloth, Aramith should do the same. It would at least make it a little harder to counterfeit.
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Agreed. I've seen people buying new Aramith then putting old junk sets in the new box and selling them as new Aramith
 
RD123 said:
I almost checked out of Amazon with a set of Aramith balls but I noticed they were made of POLYESTER. How common are polyester Aramith balls. Price was over $200 plus tax. I thought all Aramith balls were phenolic resin.

Aramith 11-111 2-1/4" Regulation Size Premier Billiard/Pool Balls, Complete 16 Ball Set https://a.co/d/9pY3R4p
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I am pretty sure Aramith (Saluc) only uses their own resin to make every ball they sell. The resin can have different properties, but it is all thermoset.

Polyester is thermoplastic which melts instead of burns, and at temperatures close to the friction of a sliding cue ball. Thermoplastic can melt into the cloth damaging it, while also increasing ball radius variations affecting playability and roll. High temperature thermoplastics are available but probably not for these products.

Amazon has become a playground for false advertising. And because it is overseas (fingers pointing mostly at China) there is little recourse other than returning to seller. No more free returns as of April 2023, $6.99 now.

NOTE: I wanted to add, I know first hand from talking to companies in Shenzhen that many are now hiring guards to either watch their dumpsters, or to escort discarded products to permanent destruction. There is a big problem of garbage theives who collect broken products from dumpsters and sell them on Alibaba and Amazon as genuine. Same problem as in tourist areas but now on a global scale.
 
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RD123 said:
Aramith should make their balls a little more identifiable. I have a set of Aramith balls but there is no indication they are Aramith. Just the fact I bought them at the local billiards store and it says Aramith on the box. Simonis has security built into their cloth, Aramith should do the same. It would at least make it a little harder to counterfeit.
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23DenaliBDE said:
Agreed. I've seen people buying new Aramith then putting old junk sets in the new box and selling them as new Aramith
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Buy from an authorized reseller and you won't have a problem.
 
RD123 said:
Aramith should make their balls a little more identifiable. I have a set of Aramith balls but there is no indication they are Aramith. Just the fact I bought them at the local billiards store and it says Aramith on the box. Simonis has security built into their cloth, Aramith should do the same. It would at least make it a little harder to counterfeit.
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How?

Aramith pours colored resin into an engraved relief to make features (numbers and logos) that crosslink with the body of the ball during the curing process. Anything lesser, including counterfeiters, can more easily and with more detail, apply a silkscreen, which will wear off, but not until after you have bought them, used them, and can't return them.
 
nataddrho said:
How?

Aramith pours colored resin into an engraved relief to make features (numbers and logos) that crosslink with the body of the ball during the curing process. Anything lesser, including counterfeiters, can more easily and with more detail, apply a silkscreen, which will wear off, but not until after you have bought them, used them, and can't return them.
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RFID shouldn't be hard
 
JolietJames said:
I wonder if Aramith is the only company with this problem.
Early this year, I purchased a new set from a different manufacturer and have experienced some problems with them that are described on the page you linked.
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I'm certain Aramith is not the only company having their products knocked off on Amazon. A local room bought a gross of Masters chalk off Amazon. The stuff makes a huge mess. I've used Master's exclusively for 10+ years on my home table (bought from reputable sellers) and have never had the product make a mess like this stuff. I can only deduct it is counterfeit.
 
Definitely avoid. I'd be surprised if they even showed up in an Aramith box.
Conflicting information in the description also doesn't inspire confidence.

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Sheldon said:
Definitely avoid. I'd be surprised if they even showed up in an Aramith box.
Conflicting information in the description also doesn't inspire confidence.

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Who is the seller? Imperial USA is an authorized Aramith reseller.
 
nataddrho said:
It is harder than you think. And little benifit compared to the cost of the flexible tag PCB + extra manufacturing steps to center it.
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How about embedded microprinting?
A nano scale print is a strong authentication technique.
 
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