Hey Tom... give Cue and Cusion a call, they might have em. I bought a lot of stuff from there and they have a large selection of just about everything with some good prices. When I get some time we can shoot a few there together. Also Jim Buss has his cue shop not far from there and he might know where to get em also. Jim is a very knowelgeable guy and I learned a lot from him while he was re-tipping my cue.