Carbon play shafts have been strong sellers for years. Why are the only break cues w/ carbon shafts from major manufacturers the Predator BK Rush & Cuetec Breach (I know Jacoby makes a J/B, but I'm just curious about break cues. Plus, it's hideous, IMO)? Break cues & shafts tend to take the most abuse, so this would seem to be something a lot of people would be interested in. I'd really like to see something from Bull, PureX, maybe even McDermott to bring the prices down to the masses.
Break cues w/ carbon shafts- why aren't there more?
- Thread starter terpdad
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Might try MidwestCarbonTech. He has a break shaft for around 230bux i think. On FB. Also GoCustoms has breaker i believe. Demand is high right now so the big co's can get the big bucks.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
Bean counters have probably determined it is best to focus on playing cues and spare shafts rather than break cues. Also less break speed hits mean less potential for damage and warranty claims.
Pool players often are on a budget, better to invest in a playing cue rather than a break cue if you can only get one. Bean counters realize this.
Pool players often are on a budget, better to invest in a playing cue rather than a break cue if you can only get one. Bean counters realize this.
Nyquil
Well-known member
From my understanding wood is still preferred by most for breaking. Carbon shafts are hollow and don't provide the best hit that a hard break shot needs. Predator even mentions the 12.4 and 11.8 shafts are not intended to handle break shots. Jacoby has their black model out though along with a few others that have been mentioned. I will say I dig my Viking Crush. It smashes racks and was pretty cheap. The shaft is some thick maple I don't think it will ever warp.
Mezz, Jacoby, Fury, and Tiger all have their own break cues.
I never understood the purpose of a carbon fiber break shaft. Does low deflection really make a difference on the break? I rarely use any intentional side spin on a break shot.
The carbon fiber shaft is more than just low deflection. Energy transfer is just as important with a break cue. Lots of players out there do use some side spin when breaking. an example of this is the 2nd ball break in 8 ball to get the cueball to spin off the side rail back into the rack. The low deflection also helps when you accidently hit the cue ball off center when you are breaking.
CF break cues are kinda new and expensive. Most player are going to switch their playing cue to CF before their break cue. As time goes one, I think you'll see more and more people switching to a CF break cue.
For me, I slightly prefer CF to wood for my playing shaft. I also have a couple of distracting dings in my wood breaker.
Nyq,
Serious question, what are they lacking in that department?
Thanks,
Keith
19mph Top End
No. Fact that its hollow means nothing. CF can be made as stiff as you want. Its all in the material and how its wound/laid up. First time i ever broke a 10b rack(barbox) with a friend's Cuetec i made four balls like it was nothing. WAY more energy transfer than any wood cue i ever hit. I don't play much rotation or i'd buy one for sure. The BKrush is about the same. LOTS of ballspeed with not much effort.
Stiffness and power. That simple. Nothing to do with deflection. That's important in a playing shaft but not a breaker.
Nyquil
Well-known member
Let me rephrase here is what is on predators website in regards to breaking with the Revo obviously this is just one manufacture, but they are the most popular.
Yes, you can break with a REVO 12.9 playing shaft; it’s strong enough, but it is not optimized for breaking. Its construction was developed as a playing shaft. The Predator BK-RUSH features a break-optimized REVO BK-R carbon fiber composite break shaft.
We do not recommend breaking with REVO 12.4 or 11.8 shafts
I am not sure what the internal differences are to get it "break optimized" other than a tip change but for the thinner playing shafts it's a no go directly from predator on breaking with them.
I'm talking ONLY about BREAK shafts. I've tried about four and ALL were better than wood. IIRC the OP was asking about BREAK shafts/cues. My J&J with a white diamond breaks great but the cf shafts are in a different league.
Correct. I like my PureX J/B too, just might be interested in trying something else for kicks.
If i played a lot of rotation tournaments i'd look into one but as often as i play rot. my J&J/WD combo smashes them pretty damn good. I've got about 130bux in it and just can't see the $$ outlay for a cf breaker.
madjammer
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I thought the BK Rush was just hype until I broke a few racks with one. There's a noticeable difference in energy transfer for sure. Enough difference that I want one despite the price tag.
When i tried the Cuetec i was only hitting at about 75-80% and the racks just exploded. Control and lots of juice. I was impressed.