Bscp(yen & Co.) Deceived Wpa - Ground For Disqualification

arian dacongan

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JUST RECENTLY DISCOVERED THAT BSCP IS NOT A LEGAL ENTITY IN THE PHIL. DUE NOT BEING REGISTERED WITH THE SECURITY AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION...

ALSO THEY HAVE NOT NAMED A SINGLE SPONSOR THEY HAVE FOR THEIR SUPPOSEDLY UP AND COMING WORLD TEN BALL CHAMPIONSHIP...

AND WORST,, THEY HAVE NOT ESCROWED THE PRIZE MONEY WITH GAB..

AND EVEN WORST..THE PHIL. PRO PLAYERS ARE BOYCOTTING...TSK TSK TSK..

READ THIS:

Bscp A Fly By Night?! Waiting For Bscp Reply
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...PER SPUTNIK...(JUST FANNING THE FLAME)


Bscp(yen) A Fly By Night???!!!
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The Truth About BSCP (shocking!)
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Huge dreams and projects require a solid foundation. BSCP is the organization that is accredited by POC and WPA -- according to its legal existence, they are subject to being seen as fly-by-night.

BSCP IS NOT REGISTERED IN THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION!

To undertake a $500,000.00 tournament with such flimsy legal documentation is admirably bold and underhandedly wise. In case of any kind of default, who will be answerable? A non-existent company? Under the law, they cannot even open a bank account under BSCP because the banks will require SEC papers.

These are not lies. Search the Philippine Securities and Exchange Commission yourself.

1] Billiards and Snooker Congress of the Philippines (BSCP) is not registered in the Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) of the Philippines. Although they have an explanation in their outdated website that they are working on it, the fact is that they are not a duly registered organization in the Philippines.

2]BSCP is wrongfully accredited as a National Sports Association under the Philippine Olympic Committee. This makes everything dubious and questionable as BSCP is a fictitious name.

3] BSCP is wrongfully accredited by APBU and WPA. This makes everything dubious and questionable as BSCP is a fictitious name.

4] Raya Sports and Events is not registered in the Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) of the Philippines according to the SEC i-search website. If Raya Sports is a small-time single proprietorship, they should be in the Department of Trade and Industry website but they are nowhere to be found! And even if it is a registered single proprietorship, it is doubtful that the owner of this business can vouch for $500,000.00 to give away if anything happens to his sponsors.

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After all, I stand corrected. There is no conflict of interest in Makabenta's being Chairman of BSCP and President of Raya Sports. ... only because BSCP is legally non-existent.

Governance, members and shareholders -- big hullabaloo are all ghost characters.

We do not need hullabaloo BSCP statements that you make. We need explanations about your existence. We know that you can do it... give it a shot... maybe we will believe you.

FOR POOL'S SAKE..I HOPE THAT WPA AND APBU WILL HAVE THE GUTS NOW TO DISQUALIFY AND STRIP BSCP(YEN AND COHORTS) THE AUTHORITY AWARDED TO THEM DUE TO DECEPTIVE PRACTICES(WHAT ELSE IS NEW)
 
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arian dacongan said:
JUST RECENTLY DISCOVERED THAT BSCP IS NOT A LEGAL ENTITY IN THE PHIL. DUE NOT BEING REGISTERED WITH THE SECURITY AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION...

ALSO THEY HAVE NOT NAMED A SINGLE SPONSOR THEY HAVE FOR THEIR SUPPOSEDLY UP AND COMING WORLD TEN BALL CHAMPIONSHIP...

AND WORST,, THEY HAVE NOT ESCROWED THE PRIZE MONEY WITH GAB..

AND EVEN WORST..THE PHIL. PRO PLAYERS ARE BOYCOTTING...TSK TSK TSK..

READ THIS:

Bscp A Fly By Night?! Waiting For Bscp Reply
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...PER SPUTNIK...(JUST FANNING THE FLAME)


Bscp(yen) A Fly By Night???!!!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Truth About BSCP (shocking!)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Huge dreams and projects require a solid foundation. BSCP is the organization that is accredited by POC and WPA -- according to its legal existence, they are subject to being seen as fly-by-night.

BSCP IS NOT REGISTERED IN THE SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION!

To undertake a $500,000.00 tournament with such flimsy legal documentation is admirably bold and underhandedly wise. In case of any kind of default, who will be answerable? A non-existent company? Under the law, they cannot even open a bank account under BSCP because the banks will require SEC papers.

These are not lies. Search the Philippine Securities and Exchange Commission yourself.

1] Billiards and Snooker Congress of the Philippines (BSCP) is not registered in the Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) of the Philippines. Although they have an explanation in their outdated website that they are working on it, the fact is that they are not a duly registered organization in the Philippines.

2]BSCP is wrongfully accredited as a National Sports Association under the Philippine Olympic Committee. This makes everything dubious and questionable as BSCP is a fictitious name.

3] BSCP is wrongfully accredited by APBU and WPA. This makes everything dubious and questionable as BSCP is a fictitious name.

4] Raya Sports and Events is not registered in the Security and Exchange Commission (SEC) of the Philippines according to the SEC i-search website. If Raya Sports is a small-time single proprietorship, they should be in the Department of Trade and Industry website but they are nowhere to be found! And even if it is a registered single proprietorship, it is doubtful that the owner of this business can vouch for $500,000.00 to give away if anything happens to his sponsors.

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After all, I stand corrected. There is no conflict of interest in Makabenta's being Chairman of BSCP and President of Raya Sports. ... only because BSCP is legally non-existent.

Governance, members and shareholders -- big hullabaloo are all ghost characters.

We do not need hullabaloo BSCP statements that you make. We need explanations about your existence. We know that you can do it... give it a shot... maybe we will believe you.

FOR POOL'S SAKE..I HOPE THAT WPA AND APBU WILL HAVE THE GUTS NOW TO DISQUALIFY AND STRIP BSCP(YEN AND COHORTS) THE AUTHORITY AWARDED TO THEM DUE TO DECEPTIVE PRACTICES(WHAT ELSE IS NEW)
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Arian, things are moving here. But still, even if things are solved domestically, WPA should really take a second look into their accreditation policy for countries that have both professional and amateur organizations. Perhaps quotas should be given to the amateur for IOC games like Asian Games, Olympic exhibition games, etc. Ideally, all prized tournament quotas should go through professional accreditation.
 
Let me get this straight...

sputnik said:
Arian, things are moving here. But still, even if things are solved domestically, WPA should really take a second look into their accreditation policy for countries that have both professional and amateur organizations. Perhaps quotas should be given to the amateur for IOC games like Asian Games, Olympic exhibition games, etc. Ideally, all prized tournament quotas should go through professional accreditation.
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May I ask you something?

I read the other post about the decisions made concerning both parties in the Phil. Now it comes to light that what the other side said was true all along? Please try to make some sense of this for me. The President of the country backs the players and cue sports. It is all the rage there. What happens now? Do you have any thoughts on this subject?

Thank you for your time.

Dwight
 
BigDogatLarge said:
May I ask you something?

I read the other post about the decisions made concerning both parties in the Phil. Now it comes to light that what the other side said was true all along? Please try to make some sense of this for me. The President of the country backs the players and cue sports. It is all the rage there. What happens now? Do you have any thoughts on this subject?

Thank you for your time.

Dwight
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Hi Dwight. As it is, the only thing official that has happened was that National Sports Association (NSA) of billiards in the country, BSCP had lost a huge following in the top players of the country, together with their managers in BMPAP.

There have been no decisions made yet. There was a stir when WPA came up with a statement asking the two parties to settle amicably and later on said that the current set-up of WPA-APBU-BSCP is the basis for everything (even the outcries).

Currently, BSCP enjoys accreditation as an NSA, therefore accreditation with Asian Pocket Billiards Union (APBU) under WPA.

When there are tournaments outside the country, be it professional or amateur, invites go through APBU and APBU metes them out to other member countries with quota invites.

But the problem is that BSCP has lost its neutrality by partnering with Raya Sports and Star Paper. There is much difficulty in distinguishing interests as the voice of BSCP is the voice of all, and the voice of Raya is the voice of BSCP -- all because Makabenta chairs BSCP and is President of Raya in a schizophrenic set-up. As a result, the functions of Raya Sports (or BSCP) have crossed the mandate of what BSCP is empowered to have, and the group is using both the accreditation of a supposedly neutral body that should take care of the sport in the country; and the commercial capacity of Raya Sports. So aside from the question of neutrality in quotas being submitted to APBU, BSCP has expanded its operations into organizing tournaments with Raya as its front, and Raya obviously enjoys blatant favoritism over its only competition in BMPAP. In every step, BSCP (or Raya) dangles accreditation like a police badge and denies BMPAP from an even playing field.

As to government support, of course the Philippine Olympic Committee (POC) and the National Sports Commission (NSC) will initially protect its constituents because it wants to protect the whole institution. How far they will stick out their necks for BSCP, we do not know. As the head of POC told BMPAP, "We will not look good if you pursue these issues". This same thinking may backfire on BSCP when the sh** hits the fan. NSC has just had its head replaced a few days ago and the POC will have its elections soon.

As to the President, any president of a small country will support an international event like the WPC, but that does not mean that BSCP has her loyalty. The president supported the holding of WPC in the country by funding the event with government money (which BSCP argues is not "money" but "sponsorship" in the Senate investigation). There is no indication whatsoever that the President supports BSCP.

The use of big words and big names only matters internationally because the main objective of those names and words is to confuse people into acknowledging their credibility. This is the root of your inquiry. In the Philippines, everybody knows what is happening. BSCP is an organization only with leaders in it and a few stragglers in the ranks making use of APBU and WPA accreditation to enable the symbiotic relationship with Raya to look credible. (Remember that BSCP is comprised only of very few people in its membership. Ask them to enumerate their members!)

The biggest deception and disguise of BSCP and Raya Sports is that their names are not not even registered in the SEC as official organizations, putting their bankable capacity into suspicion and question.

That, together with the different accusations of malpractices, are the legal bases for officially bringing down the BSCP as an official NSA of billiards in the country. BMPAP is doing its part in putting its grievances (that are posted here so that you will know) into the hands of the law.

That is the smartest thing to do because BSCP had flaunted (in one of Makabenta's articles) that Ian Andersen had signed and endorsed their multi-million dollar 10-Ball event over lunch in the Philippines. This is probably why Andersen is distancing (to say the least) himself from deciding on things. Naturally, the Philippine pool community, which comprises the non-BSCP players and movers of the sport, feels that it will not be able to find help in WPA because of the implications in its official statement.
 
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Hi Dwight. As it is, the only thing official that has happened was that National Sports Association (NSA) of billiards in the country, BSCP had lost a huge following in the top players of the country, together with their managers in BMPAP.

There have been no decisions made yet. There was a stir when WPA came up with a statement asking the two parties to settle amicably and later on said that the current set-up of WPA-APBU-BSCP is the basis for everything (even the outcries).

Currently, BSCP enjoys accreditation as an NSA, therefore accreditation with Asian Pocket Billiards Union (APBU) under WPA.

When there are tournaments outside the country, be it professional or amateur, invites go through APBU and APBU metes them out to other member countries with quota invites.

But the problem is that BSCP has lost its neutrality by partnering with Raya Sports and Star Paper. There is much difficulty in distinguishing interests as the voice of BSCP is the voice of all, and the voice of Raya is the voice of BSCP -- all because Makabenta chairs BSCP and is President of Raya in a schizophrenic set-up. As a result, the functions of Raya Sports (or BSCP) have crossed the mandate of what BSCP is empowered to have, and the group is using both the accreditation of a supposedly neutral body that should take care of the sport in the country; and the commercial capacity of Raya Sports. So aside from the question of neutrality in quotas being submitted to APBU, BSCP has expanded its operations into organizing tournaments with Raya as its front, and Raya obviously enjoys blatant favoritism over its only competition in BMPAP. In every step, BSCP (or Raya) dangles accreditation like a police badge and denies BMPAP from an even playing field.

As to government support, of course the Philippine Olympic Committee (POC) and the National Sports Commission (NSC) will initially protect its constituents because it wants to protect the whole institution. How far they will stick out their necks for BSCP, we do not know. As the head of POC told BMPAP, "We will not look good if you pursue these issues". This same thinking may backfire on BSCP when the sh** hits the fan. NSC has just had its head replaced a few days ago and the POC will have its elections soon.

As to the President, any president of a small country will support an international event like the WPC, but that does not mean that BSCP has her loyalty. The president supported the holding of WPC in the country by funding the event with government money (which BSCP argues is not "money" but "sponsorship" in the Senate investigation). There is no indication whatsoever that the President supports BSCP.

The use of big words and big names only matters internationally because the main objective of those names and words is to confuse people into acknowledging their credibility. This is the root of your inquiry. In the Philippines, everybody knows what is happening. BSCP is an organization only with leaders in it and a few stragglers in the ranks making use of APBU and WPA accreditation to enable the symbiotic relationship with Raya to look credible. (Remember that BSCP is comprised only of very few people in its membership. Ask them to enumerate their members!)

The biggest deception and disguise of BSCP and Raya Sports is that their names are not not even registered in the SEC as official organizations, putting their bankable capacity into suspicion and question.

That, together with the different accusations of malpractices, are the legal bases for officially bringing down the BSCP as an official NSA of billiards in the country. BMPAP is doing its part in putting its grievances (that are posted here so that you will know) into the hands of the law.

That is the smartest thing to do because BSCP had flaunted (in one of Makabenta's articles) that Ian Andersen had signed and endorsed their multi-million dollar 10-Ball event over lunch in the Philippines. This is probably why Andersen is distancing (to say the least) himself from deciding on things. Naturally, the Philippine pool community, which comprises the non-BSCP players and movers of the sport, feels that it will not be able to find help in WPA because of the implications in its official statement.
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bottomline is as long as yen and cohorts are in existence in pool scene- top players like reyes and co. will never submit to their coniving ways...

yen and cohorts are exposed and they should be junked--as they did to ronnie and alex...

if you don't and we keep them in top post-- thenit's like being the phil. government back in marcos days... different president but same corrupt elements from top to bottom allsector of governance...same people just dancing in different tunes...

far be it from happening in this case...yen must go
 
so, does it mean that the BMPAP will host the world ten ball and the WPC????
 
LoReNz said:
so, does it mean that the BMPAP will host the world ten ball and the WPC????
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...i hope they will and you will see all players happy...because if that happens ,then pool in phil. is back to where it belongs ..to the players and not to some vultures and dictators(yen and cohorts) :wink:
 
that's what im talking about. BMPAP should start hosting all the major events. if that happens, everybody is happy! looking forward on that.
 
not so fast

thomba02 said:
why not get rid of the managers also, then it will TRULY belong to the players.
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..bmpap managers are actually good ones,,ask the players,,,even reyes and co. won't be where he is today if not for long time and unselfish support of mr. puyat....a lot of this pro cannot still make it on their own,,

read er's post on how the bmpap managers operate,,it's actually good and sacrificial on managers side.,,,it's all for the love of the gamde,,

as far as i'm concern ..these managers deserves to be financially rewarded
 
arian dacongan said:
..bmpap managers are actually good ones,,ask the players,,,even reyes and co. won't be where he is today if not for long time and unselfish support of mr. puyat....a lot of this pro cannot still make it on their own,,

read er's post on how the bmpap managers operate,,it's actually good and sacrificial on managers side.,,,it's all for the love of the gamde,,

as far as i'm concern ..these managers deserves to be financially rewarded
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Can you get Mr. Puyat on the forum and have him tell his side of the story? What about Mr. Reyes and his testimonial for Mr. Puyat. We are all pool enthusists and players. IMO we should support each other to make our sport better for all.

Dwight
 
BigDogatLarge said:
Can you get Mr. Puyat on the forum and have him tell his side of the story? What about Mr. Reyes and his testimonial for Mr. Puyat. We are all pool enthusists and players. IMO we should support each other to make our sport better for all.

Dwight
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This was posted from the Puyat camp in the Matchroom Forum:

"Until the BSCP started its proactive program in 2005, the only Filipino players known to the world were Efren Reyes, Francisco Bustamante and Alex Pagulayan. No other Filipino players were known because of Puyat?s policy of exclusion and control over international invitations. "

Puyat does not have a policy of exclusion and control over international invitations. In fact, the Puyat Sports office has been assisting players who are not directly associated with the company in acquiring visas as well as invitations to international events for many years. I personally wrote the endorsement for several players such Jeffrey de Luna, Marlon Manalo, Dodong Didal and some others who have since gone on to seek employment in Japan or join tournaments elsewhere. It seems that the memory of these players are too short to remember these things.)

Also, several players have benefited from our qualifying system which we use for selecting players for international events. Ramil Gallego, Ronnie Alcano and Rodolfo Luat are all winners in the Asian 9-ball tour after having won our qualifying tournament here. Other players who made it through the qualifying tournaments were Gandy Valle and Roberto Gomez who in fact got his first international exposure with the help of that qualifying system.

Other players have also benefited from the long relationship of Puyat Sports with other promoters abroad. We have helped several players in gaining entry into foreign competitions such as the Bali Open wherein Lee Vann Corteza was invited and even Panfilo Damuag was able to play with our endorsement to the Indonesian Federation.

Many players were not as popular as perhaps Efren Django and Alex not because we were keeping slots from them. In fact, this is because we can only afford to sponsor very few of these players since we do not take a cut from their winnings. However, entry fees from the qualifying events are used to cover some if not all of their expenses.

This is why we are grateful that other managers like Perry Mariano and Jonathan Sy have emerged and are now offering more stable and long term programs to support the players since there are indeed so many of them. With the help of these managers the players can now afford to compete in most if not all the major competitions both here and abroad. Had it not been for these managers, players like Dennis Orcullo may not have had the assistance he needed to secure his US visa which allowed him to subsequently make a name for himself in the world stage by winning tournaments there.

The emergence of more big names in Philippine Pool is the result of the added exposure that our players are getting because they are now able to compete in so many tournaments with the support of their managers.

Credit is also due to Solar Sports for putting up the Philippine 9-ball Open where players from all over the country were able to experience playing in a professional tournament. It has been an honor to be asked by Solar to be a part of this event. I have personally seen the improvement of several players who have honed their skills through the Phil-9 open over the years. Let's forget about the big names because in this occasion I want to single out Renemar David who had been religiously joining the qualifying events of the Philippine 9-ball open. He had come up short and ended up as the runner up so many times in the qualifying stages of that tournament and because of that, he learned to develop the strength of character to fight until the very end. I know this because he says it all the time that he will prove that he will not fall short all the time. (Hindi na ako kakapusin) He has since become our delegate in the World Junior Championships and has recently won the Sipag at Tiyaga division of the Manny Villar Cup in Marilao with the support of his current manager, Perry Mariano.

As for the accusasion of the SEA games "boycott" as they call it. This is not in any way a tactic employed by Mr. Puyat to sabotage the games. Efren and Django were committed to play in IPT at the time and therefore could not play. In fact, If Puyat wanted to boycott the games, then Alex would not have been there but he was. He in fact won three gold medals for the country. Furthermore, it seems that BSCP has forgotten that the player selection for the Sea Games was in fact partly based on the ranking system that was established by Puyat Sports based on local events and notable events abroad. Mr. Fajardo seems to have forgotten that he asked us for our help on this matter. If we wanted to monopolize then we should have sent only our players to compete. It also seems to me that BSCP has forgotten who they turned to for help in running the cue sports competitions in the SEA games. Do you remember who helped you with the charts, score sheets and all the technical details of the event?

Well, well, well, it seems that helping one another has never been the goal of BSCP/RAYA. They just used us to learn a few things and later decided that they would be better off running their own show so they have complete control over everything including income. This is the same thing they did to matchroom.

And by the way, stop putting words into Ian Anderson's mouth. There will only be consequences if a competing tournament is staged at the same time as the 10 ball event with the intention of sabotage. The choice to play or not is something that they cannot dictate unfortunately for you.
 
players like reyes and co. and mr. puyat are the ones responsible for bringing pool to where it is today in the phil..... just for the sheer love of the game they gave their all life...and so they deserve for phil. pool to stay that way,,in the hands of unselfish players..not in the hands of vultures like yen and cohorts
 
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The more light you shed...

I want to thank you for taking the time to inform the people here of the inner workings of pool in your country. The situation there will be resolved and the players will be "allowed" to play where and when they want to play. The more light you bring to the darkness, the more the truth will be known. Keep up your good work in making pool a sport for everyone. Sputnik and Arian thanks for making pool better.

Dwight
 
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