CNC router

Dave38

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Just wondering if anyone has used a CNC router/Dremel 'kit' and if so, is it worth playing around with? I have a chance for a kit gone bad, another words someone blew up the board by connecting it wrong.:D I have a new board and motors, the router assembly is all together, I just have to put motors to kit, and figure out how it works. All total, $100. Is it worth it to play around with doing inlays? I can't afford a Hightower type machine right now. Any comments appreciated.
Dave
 
Sure ... it is worth $100 to play around with.
You will learn a lot and quite possably end up with a cnc machine that will do tight inlays for you.

Can it rotate the cue (fourth axis) or is it just a three axis machine?
There are some panograph inlay machines that use the Dremel router and they do quite good inlays.
You could always upgrade to a better spindel and motor if you get it all going and feel the need for higher quality.

Post up some photos and let us see what you got.
If you need any help programing I use BobCad/Cam software and might be able to help you with that.
 
$100.00

Sure, for $100.00 its worth a whirl. I don't know what kind of runout you may get with the dremel, but for the bucks, Why not.
You may have some problems with your depths as the Dremel will probably have quite a bit of linier end play. Down the road you may want to upgrade to a better motor and spindle. It will be much more accurate.
I use Master Cam and Mach3. Any questions there, I may be able to help.
 
I only have a manual pantograph that I put together, but for the time being It only uses a dremel. Tips I can think of is don't use cheap bits (especially for cleanup passes), and check it for run out when you chuck a bit up into It. Like a lathe sometimes, they may need to be rechucked several times. I usually just look for the runout, by eye balling, and that is enough for me. seems like the shorter the shank, the better also. I don't know why, but to me it seems the longer the bit/mill is, the more chance it will runout some on the end. I guess that could be said for something chucked only on one end of a lathe also though. If the dremel is worn out though, then none of this may help. Mine was brand new, bought for the machine when it first started going together. Some may come with alot of runnout new for all I know, so possible I just got a decent one or something. I've heard of others having alot of spindle runount with dremels that may have been too much, and the bearings are'nt exactly designed perfectly for these type operations either. heck if you already have the setup though, I say give it a shot. Should be alot of usefull experience for only 100 bucks. I'm sure i'd give it a go at that cost. I'm looking at quite a bit more then that, just for a decent controller & steppers to power My own.

With a cnc, not My area, but I would think the key might be setting Your offsets & tooling paths up correctly to work best with it, and not trying to take out too much material in too small of a number of passes on the cleanup portion. I basically use 2 bits, one for hogging, and one for cleanup, and in My situation is alittle different, because i have to make stylus that work together with both bits to make the males fit tight to the pockets, but I have been able to do it, and the dremel was used to cut both parts out. Ofcoarse I would always count on a spindle upgrade in the future just the same, cause the dremel is kind of like bringing a knife to a gun fight, only that may depend on who's holding the gun. It can get the job done, but may take some extra attention to detail, and a few tricks to get the results you want.

Good luck with it. Please Keep us informed on how it goes through your project. I know i would enjoy seeing how it works out.:)

Greg
 
Just remember that the amount of material that you can cut away is dependant on the power of the machine. You cannot expect a small machine like a dremel to cut a pocket as fast as a router, which cannot cut as fast as a bridgeport. If you try to make a dremel cut like a bridgeport you'll let the smoke out of the dremel and it will quit working. This is the smoke-theory-of-electrical-devices ... all electrical devices operate on smoke ... let it out and the thing won't work !

Dave
 
DaveK said:
If you try a dremel cut like a bridgeport you'll let the smoke out of the dremel and it will quit working. This is the smoke-theory-of-electrical-devices ... all electrical devices operate on smoke ... let it out and the thing won't work !

Dave
And no matter how hard you try, you can never get it all back in.:D
Thanks for the input and support guys, I will post some pics when I have time, work is a b#@## right now. I originally was going to make this a hand operated machine with a stylus but there seems to be to much play, and I need to work that out. Thanks,
Dave
 
WilleeCue said:
Can it rotate the cue (fourth axis) or is it just a three axis machine?
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I wish, but I do plan on looking at that once I figure the rest out.
Dave
 
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