Corner pocket shelf

[Frosty]

Here’s something that comes to my mind. How many pros are buying a Diamond table that plays as tough as mine does? They make 3,500 plus tables a year. Are most tables going to pros that can shoot dead straight and apply lots of English on a long shot and still pocket the ball or are most sold to average pool players. How many are really pros out of 400 or so at the major tournaments? If this is their standard, I just wish Diamond would make it clear to buyers how tuff the table is going to play before they spend a lot of money. These tables are a quality tables built here in our great USA. Personally for myself if knowing what I know I would have purchased something else. Instead of selling and taking a beating, I’ve actually been thinking of trying to cut these 2” shelves back to 1 1/4”.

Their tables don’t play tough. Granted they play “differently” than Brunswicks, you just have to adjust.

 

[gbs52]

Rasson table at the World Pool Masters. Josh makes a red ball that touches point that would absolutely not go on my table. In my opinion Diamond should take a look at their shelf depth.

 

[straightline]

Rasson table at the World Pool Masters. Josh makes a red ball that touches point that would absolutely not go on my table. In my opinion Diamond should take a look at their shelf depth.
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How far up the rail are the hangers? I bet the far ones; those with enough distance to get hooked up (perfect rolling) go better. Also balls that hit the point should hang. Maybe graze the rail like the veterans.

 

[Frosty]

Rasson table at the World Pool Masters. Josh makes a red ball that touches point that would absolutely not go on my table. In my opinion Diamond should take a look at their shelf depth.
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So what does this have to do with anything? It seems you want to be bereft of accepting any responsibility on your part of why you’re jawing balls, and just blame the table for it. To the point where you’ve now used this example of a shot made in a competition on a Rasson Table. First and foremost a Rasson isn’t a Diamond and will never be of a Diamonds quality. In tournaments such as this, on the TV tables, the lights keep the tables inordinately “dry” so comparing it to what happens on your table at your house that is probably far more humid, is like comparing an apple to an orange. Basically, many people in this thread have already answered your questions completely, Pro Cuts are a fair pocket, but with humidity or rifling your shots in with too much pace your shot better be precise or it’s going to jaw and that’s not the table, it’s you, not the shelf depth. Get a better dehumidifier, a better stroke or mangle the table cutting the slate as you allude you’re considering doing, or sell it. I’m just mind blown that you’re so far in denial that you’ll blame the shelf depth, blame Diamond, blame anything, but never consider it’s your game. I wish you luck

 

[skogstokig]

Here’s something that comes to my mind. How many pros are buying a Diamond table that plays as tough as mine does? They make 3,500 plus tables a year. Are most tables going to pros that can shoot dead straight and apply lots of English on a long shot and still pocket the ball or are most sold to average pool players. How many are really pros out of 400 or so at the major tournaments? If this is their standard, I just wish Diamond would make it clear to buyers how tuff the table is going to play before they spend a lot of money. These tables are a quality tables built here in our great USA. Personally for myself if knowing what I know I would have purchased something else. Instead of selling and taking a beating, I’ve actually been thinking of trying to cut these 2” shelves back to 1 1/4”.

the vast majority of them probably have tables that play tougher than yours. if you're not gonna sell it i suppose your options are improving your game or cutting the shelves. make sure to take some photos if you attempt cutting one inch thick slate to a percect radius at home

 

[straightline]

the vast majority of them probably have tables that play tougher than yours. if you're not gonna sell it i suppose your options are improving your game or cutting the shelves. make sure to take some photos if you attempt cutting one inch thick slate to a percect radius at home

I'd leave the slate alone and cut the rubber. You could even back cut the jaws. IMO

 

[gbs52]

So what does this have to do with anything? It seems you want to be bereft of accepting any responsibility on your part of why you’re jawing balls, and just blame the table for it. To the point where you’ve now used this example of a shot made in a competition on a Rasson Table. First and foremost a Rasson isn’t a Diamond and will never be of a Diamonds quality. In tournaments such as this, on the TV tables, the lights keep the tables inordinately “dry” so comparing it to what happens on your table at your house that is probably far more humid, is like comparing an apple to an orange. Basically, many people in this thread have already answered your questions completely, Pro Cuts are a fair pocket, but with humidity or rifling your shots in with too much pace your shot better be precise or it’s going to jaw and that’s not the table, it’s you, not the shelf depth. Get a better dehumidifier, a better stroke or mangle the table cutting the slate as you allude you’re considering doing, or sell it. I’m just mind blown that you’re so far in denial that you’ll blame the shelf depth, blame Diamond, blame anything, but never consider it’s your game. I wish you luck

If you don’t like what someone has to say why comment simply pass it by but that’s to easy. I would like to see your performance on this table. Like I said other tables just like this one do not play as tough as this one.

 

[garczar]

So what does this have to do with anything? It seems you want to be bereft of accepting any responsibility on your part of why you’re jawing balls, and just blame the table for it. To the point where you’ve now used this example of a shot made in a competition on a Rasson Table. First and foremost a Rasson isn’t a Diamond and will never be of a Diamonds quality. In tournaments such as this, on the TV tables, the lights keep the tables inordinately “dry” so comparing it to what happens on your table at your house that is probably far more humid, is like comparing an apple to an orange. Basically, many people in this thread have already answered your questions completely, Pro Cuts are a fair pocket, but with humidity or rifling your shots in with too much pace your shot better be precise or it’s going to jaw and that’s not the table, it’s you, not the shelf depth. Get a better dehumidifier, a better stroke or mangle the table cutting the slate as you allude you’re considering doing, or sell it. I’m just mind blown that you’re so far in denial that you’ll blame the shelf depth, blame Diamond, blame anything, but never consider it’s your game. I wish you luck

Exact-a-mundo. Well said. Its not the table's fault this guy's shots aren't falling. I remember at DCC in '07 i hit some balls on the tv table. That thing was like glass and accepted shots that a table in normal conditions would not. Also played on the regular tables after play was over and they played totally different. Same table/cloth/balls. Night and day difference. This cat needs to either quit whining or buy a different table. Diamond is not changing because some random dude on a forum can't make a ball.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

Rasson table at the World Pool Masters. Josh makes a red ball that touches point that would absolutely not go on my table. In my opinion Diamond should take a look at their shelf depth.

Looks to me like the pocket facings on the Rasson are too parallel, accepting balls too easily. They should be closer together at the throat.

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