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cutemonster

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Hi,
for CTE players, do you guys have other aiming system to check your aim line besides ghost ball or from experience?

As a CTE starter, I cannot be sure that I am at the correct shot line all the time. It will be nice if I can learn another method to double check before I fire.

just curious,

thanks!
 
cutemonster said:
Hi,
for CTE players, do you guys have other aiming system to check your aim line besides ghost ball or from experience?

As a CTE starter, I cannot be sure that I am at the correct shot line all the time. It will be nice if I can learn another method to double check before I fire.

just curious,

thanks!
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CTE only and experience......
I know how to use SEE and 90/90 but I don't use any other system to countercheck whether if im on the correct line or not.

every aiming system gives or orientates you to the correct shot in relation to their distinct approach...

Trust CTE.

also, sometimes, other than experience I use SVB shaft edge aiming on specific.. and I mean specific thin long cuts where the object ball is near the rail and the angle of the cueball in realtion sto the object ball is too steep...
 
thanks! I may check out SVB. The process and time to master SEE is about the same as CTE and since I learn CTE first, I'm trying to spend at least a few months using it.
 
cutemonster said:
thanks! I may check out SVB. The process and time to master SEE is about the same as CTE and since I learn CTE first, I'm trying to spend at least a few months using it.
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go with CTE, use SEE and experience as a backup....
CTE is accurate and sometimes cruel when your lazy.
 
Se7en6ix said:
go with CTE, use SEE and experience as a backup....
CTE is accurate and sometimes cruel when your lazy.
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So your answer to the OP's original question would be yes then, that you do have alternate aiming methods to check aim with before pulling the trigger?

I use a variation of 90/90 and it sets me up on the right shot line WHEN I choose the correct shot line and set it up correctly, however each method, in my experience so far, seems to have limits where it looks pretty good but the ball doesn't quite go. Sometimes I trust it and make the ball, sometimes I trust it and miss. I try and recheck the line with contact point SEE but sometimes I don't take the time to, and usually when I miss that is the reason why.
 
Try this.....

Put a ball on the rack spot.

Freeze a ball to it such that it is dead onto the center of one the corner pockets on the rack end of the table.

Remove the ball on the rack spot.

The rack spot is where the CB needs to be in order to make that OB go into the corner pocket, regardless of system used.

Just roll the CB contact patch over the rack spot.

You can also get into shooting position without a CB and just stroke the end of the cue to the rack spot.

Then add the CB.

Google Babe Cranfield's the Aiming Arrow.
 
duckie said:
Try this.....

Put a ball on the rack spot.

Freeze a ball to it such that it is dead onto the center of one the corner pockets on the rack end of the table.

Remove the ball on the rack spot.

The rack spot is where the CB needs to be in order to make that OB go into the corner pocket, regardless of system used.

Just roll the CB contact patch over the rack spot.

You can also get into shooting position without a CB and just stroke the end of the cue to the rack spot.

Then add the CB.

Google Babe Cranfield's the Aiming Arrow.
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You were shown a photo of objective aim points on the object ball.

Why don't you provide us with a photo of this "CB contact patch?"
 
cutemonster said:
Hi,
for CTE players, do you guys have other aiming system to check your aim line besides ghost ball or from experience?

As a CTE starter, I cannot be sure that I am at the correct shot line all the time. It will be nice if I can learn another method to double check before I fire.

just curious,

thanks!
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Yes I do.

I use CTE for about 90% of my shot making.
I double check CTE against S.A.M.

Both were taught to me by Hal Houle.

I use Off-Set for about 10% of my shot making.

randyg
 
BeiberLvr said:
You were shown a photo of objective aim points on the object ball.

Why don't you provide us with a photo of this "CB contact patch?"
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No need for a photo......just go look at a ball. Where the ball contacts the table is the ball contact patch.

Or your you blind?

This is a example of a real world objective point that can be used for aiming. Anyone can see the balls contact patch.

Carry over from racing where a tires contact patch is everything.
 
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I am an avid CTE Pro One enthusiast but I do sometimes struggle with which visual I should use. I will go and look at Duckies contact point and sometimes I will even put the tip of my cue on the center of the ghost ball spot and pivot my cue to over the cue ball. This helps me confirm which set of visuals I should be using. Once I know which set to use, I discard all ghost ball and pivot references and rely on Pro One. Most times I split the pocket.

The ones that do get me is when I think I've chosen the correct visual and haven't. Then I miss the pocket by a pretty fair amount and watch the object ball usually heading for some other pocket.

The other thing that really helps is to shoot a lot of straight in shots with alternate sweeps. When doing this, also make sure that you are shooting your straight in shots from many different locations on the table. Sometimes when the table is in your way or you are stretched out, it can affect your sweep. The stop shots reveal any error in your sweep. You have to make sure your sweeps are consistent on both sides or it throws everything off.

There is no doubt in my mind that Pro one works. My game has improved tremendously since learning it!
 
duckie said:
No need for a photo......just go look at a ball. Where the ball contacts the table is the ball contact patch.

Or your you blind?

This is a example of a real world objective point that can be used for aiming. Anyone can see the balls contact patch.

Carry over from racing where a tires contact patch is everything.
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I'm sorry. The tables I play aren't see through, and therefore, I am unable to see where the ball contacts the table.
 
Renegade_56 said:
So your answer to the OP's original question would be yes then, that you do have alternate aiming methods to check aim with before pulling the trigger?

I use a variation of 90/90 and it sets me up on the right shot line WHEN I choose the correct shot line and set it up correctly, however each method, in my experience so far, seems to have limits where it looks pretty good but the ball doesn't quite go. Sometimes I trust it and make the ball, sometimes I trust it and miss. I try and recheck the line with contact point SEE but sometimes I don't take the time to, and usually when I miss that is the reason why.
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Hmmmm what I meant was use CTE only...

in general term, once you decided an aiming to use on a certain shot, don't bother counterchecking it other system...

use CTE as primary the SEE or experience or 90/90 as backup..
 
duckie said:
Try this.....

Put a ball on the rack spot.

Freeze a ball to it such that it is dead onto the center of one the corner pockets on the rack end of the table.

Remove the ball on the rack spot.

The rack spot is where the CB needs to be in order to make that OB go into the corner pocket, regardless of system used.

Just roll the CB contact patch over the rack spot.

You can also get into shooting position without a CB and just stroke the end of the cue to the rack spot.

Then add the CB.

Google Babe Cranfield's the Aiming Arrow.
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why is good duckie in every CTE thread?

Prior to learning CTE I don't use ghostballs, I just look at the balls and shoot at it.. and after some time and thousands of hits, yes my eyes and body are now accustomed to classic aiming...

I could not say that's a ghost ball, although some would say it is..

to make things simple .
Ghost ball works, CTE works.......

if those two systems work, and both great, why can't we simply choose an aiming system that shortens the learning curve, and saves money....
not all of us can spend 10 hours on the table daily, not all of us have the drive to learn both at a faster pace...

duckie, please do not invite yourself to any honest CTE threads.. although you have the right to do so..

please note the title of the thread:

"CTE plus other aiming system"

which means the priority is CTE and yours is best at second..

thanks, no offense.:thumbup:
 
Using now since months just cte/pro1 and 90/90. (but really don t play that much).
If playing for example straight pool-- where i have to really plan the cueball s path for the impact in a rack or sth like that, i double check with *contact to contact* and *tangent-line*--- but somehow only to doublecheck a MAYBE upcoming negative thought :-)

Use what can help you- or what HELPS you- no matter what system! each to its own. Everyone has a special ability to learn-- and so it s especially if it s about aiming system about *trying out what works for you*. And a really qualified instructor who works a bit longer with you ,will usually have some ideas "about this" :-) (expirience, hm? :p )

and pure knowledge oyu just can get at the table! true knowledge comes from expirience!

have a smooth stroke :-)
 
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