CTE PR ONE terms defined

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mohrt

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Just some of the terms used when discussing CTE PRO ONE, and what they mean. If you have any other terms that you are uncertain of, reply here and I'll add them.

CTE: Center To Edge, a representational line starting at the center of the cueball and extending to the right-most or left-most edge of the object ball.

CTEL: Center To Edge Line, see above.

OB: Object Ball
CB: Cue Ball

CCB: Center Cue Ball

BALL ADDRESS: An upright position behind the cue ball where the two-line visuals are obtained.

FULL STANCE: A position where a player is bent down on the shot and the cue is directly on the shot line.

LEFT PIVOT: A manual pivoting motion that is a left-to-right movement, starting 1/2 tip to the left of CCB, and pivoting to CCB.

RIGHT PIVOT: A manual pivoting motion that is a right-to-left movement, starting 1/2 tip to the right of CCB, and pivoting to CCB.

INSIDE PIVOT: Another term for describing a pivot in which the pivot direction is away from the cut. For a right cut, a right pivot is an inside pivot. For a left cut, a left pivot is an inside pivot.

OUTSIDE PIVOT: Another term for describing a pivot in which the pivot direction is toward the cut. For a right cut, a left pivot is an outside pivot. For a left cut, a right pivot is an outside pivot.

LEFT SWEEP: A movement that replaces the manual left pivot, and instead sweeps from ball address to full stance, and the eyes move slightly to the left. The end position is exactly where you would be using manual left pivot.

RIGHT SWEEP: A movement that replaces the manual right pivot, and instead sweeps from ball address to full stance, and the eyes move slightly to the right. The end position is exactly where you would be using manual right pivot.

FIXED CUEBALL: The view of the cueball from a very specific eye location. If you move your eyes left or right even the slightest bit, the fixed cueball is lost. Once visuals are obtained, freeze your head and look at CCB. This specific view of the cueball is considered "fixed".

AIMING LINES: The two lines used to address the cue ball, one of them being the CTEL, the other a line from a CB edge to A/B/C on the OB. These lines are in now way equivalent to the actual shot line.
 
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mohrt said:
Just some of the terms used when discussing CTE PRO ONE, and what they mean. If you have any other terms that you are uncertain of, reply here and I'll add them.

CTE: Center To Edge, a representational line starting at the center of the cueball and extending to the right-most or left-most edge of the object ball.

CTEL: Center To Edge Line, see above.

OB: Object Ball
CB: Cue Ball

CCB: Center Cue Ball

BALL ADDRESS: An upright position behind the cue ball where the two-line visuals are obtained.

FULL STANCE: A position where a player is bent down on the shot and the cue is directly on the shot line.

LEFT PIVOT: A manual pivoting motion that is a left-to-right movement, starting 1/2 tip to the left of CCB, and pivoting to CCB to the shot line.

RIGHT PIVOT: A manual pivoting motion that is a right-to-left movement, starting 1/2 tip to the right of CCB, and pivoting to CCB to the shot line.

LEFT SWEEP: A movement that replaces the manual left pivot, and instead sweeps from ball address to full stance, and the eyes move slightly to the left. The end position is exactly where you would be using manual left pivot.

RIGHT SWEEP: A movement that replaces the manual right pivot, and instead sweeps from ball address to full stance, and the eyes move slightly to the right. The end position is exactly where you would be using manual right pivot.

FIXED CUEBALL: The view of the cueball from a very specific eye location. If you move your eyes left or right even the slightest bit, the fixed cueball is lost. Once visuals are obtained, freeze your head and look at CCB. This specific view of the cueball is considered "fixed".

AIMING LINES: The two lines used to address the cue ball, one of them being the CTEL, the other a line from a CB edge to A/B/C on the OB. These lines are in now way equivalent to the actual shot line.
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what about the pivot lenghts?
 
Ratta said:
what about the pivot lenghts?
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These are just terms, not an explanation of the system or how it works. I don't think "pivot length" is an actual term to mean anything except "the length of the pivot."
 
How about one of my favorites: "Oh f&%k" This equates to a miss due to a poor/wrong visual, poor move into the ball or a poor stroke. :)
 
mohrt said:
LEFT SWEEP: A movement that replaces the manual left pivot, and instead sweeps from ball address to full stance, and the eyes move slightly to the left. The end position is exactly where you would be using manual left pivot.
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Okay, I think this where I get lost at times, so maybe you can help me understand a little better.

When you say the eyes move slightly to the left. Where exactly am I looking before and after I move my eyes?

The way I'm reading it (which is probably wrong) is that I would look at the fixed CCB, then move my eyes 1/2 tip to the left, and that's where I need to put the tip. Once again, probably wrong, but any clarification would be appreciated.
 
BeiberLvr said:
Okay, I think this where I get lost at times, so maybe you can help me understand a little better.

When you say the eyes move slightly to the left. Where exactly am I looking before and after I move my eyes?

The way I'm reading it (which is probably wrong) is that I would look at the fixed CCB, then move my eyes 1/2 tip to the left, and that's where I need to put the tip. Once again, probably wrong, but any clarification would be appreciated.
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In manual, yes, that is where you tip ends up. What you are striving for is the proper placement of your bridge hand. Once there, THEN you manually pivot to center cb. If using an air pivot (pro 1), then your eyes shift to 1/2 tip from center and that is now your fixed cb. You then air pivot to center cb keeping your bridge hand coming down to where it would be if you did it manually.

Have you seen this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KwI_62Npos
 
Neil said:
In manual, yes, that is where you tip ends up. What you are striving for is the proper placement of your bridge hand. Once there, THEN you manually pivot to center cb. If using an air pivot (pro 1), then your eyes shift to 1/2 tip from center and that is now your fixed cb. You then air pivot to center cb keeping your bridge hand coming down to where it would be if you did it manually.

Have you seen this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KwI_62Npos
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So is center CB and fixed CB two different things?

I've seen the video a while back, but it sounds like I need to watch it again (which I will).
 
BeiberLvr said:
So is center CB and fixed CB two different things?

I've seen the video a while back, but it sounds like I need to watch it again (which I will).
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When you get your two visuals, you now have a "fixed" cb. At this point, forget about the ob, your whole focus is now on the cb. You don't move. The cb as you now see it is in a fixed position. You should also now be actually looking at ccb. With your fixed cb, now look at a point 1/2 tip from center, either right or left depending on the shot requirements. Manually, you go down in that position. THEN, from that position, pivot to center ball without moving your bridge hand. That is now the shot line.
 
I have been struggling to learn CTE/PRO1 for about 6 months now, although I do not work on it nearly as hard as I should be. Correct me if I am wrong, but the purpose of finding the second visual, A/B/C, is to find your center cue ball for that particular angle cut that you are lining up on? In other words it is the combination of cue ball center to object ball edge and cue ball edge to object ball A/B/C that helps you visually locate the center of the cue ball that you need focus on then move into the shot along that line?
 
fastone371 said:
I have been struggling to learn CTE/PRO1 for about 6 months now, although I do not work on it nearly as hard as I should be. Correct me if I am wrong, but the purpose of finding the second visual, A/B/C, is to find your center cue ball for that particular angle cut that you are lining up on? In other words it is the combination of cue ball center to object ball edge and cue ball edge to object ball A/B/C that helps you visually locate the center of the cue ball that you need focus on then move into the shot along that line?
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It is true you are finding center cue ball, however you are (at that point) a 1/2 tip pivot/sweep away from the shot line.
 
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