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CTE PRO ONE 5-way shot
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Note that you have also given evidence here of the need for adjustments or feel or visual intelligence (or whatever you want to call it) with CTE/Pro1. You said you used A/left on both shot #1 (a cut in the side) and shot #3 (a one-cushion bank). Yet the CB was cut at different angles even though CB and OB started on the same spots. So, clearly, you did something different between those two shots to achieve the different results. Stan told us 2 1/2 years ago that it is different eye positions (based on knowledge gained from experience) that makes that possible.
I just checked this shot, the first shot into the side pocket should be a B-LEFT. I think I said A-LEFT on the shot while in the middle of my alignment, and that was incorrect. [I added an annotation to the video]
If the CB and OB are placed in the exact same position, there is no way you can make the shot into two separate pockets using the same visuals and sweep. They must differ. However it is true that a single visual can cover a range of angles. This is because the eye position is slightly different for each shot, as you stated.
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Good shooting! But there is a discrepancy in visuals for serval shots.
Cut to side correct. A. L
Cut corner should be C R or B L
Bank cross corner should be A R
Bank cross side should be B L
3 rail bank should be C L
All of the shots above can be strictly tested with manual pivoting!
Stan Shuffett
Cut to side correct. A. L
Cut corner should be C R or B L
Bank cross corner should be A R
Bank cross side should be B L
3 rail bank should be C L
All of the shots above can be strictly tested with manual pivoting!
Stan Shuffett
Yes, just keep quoting me in hopes of conveying that the system is FEEL as if that was what I was saying. NOT!!
Stan Shuffett
That is interesting Stan. I think this stands as evidence that one can teach themselves to sweep into a shot so that the shot hits the pocket with a visual that they think is correct. You are right, I should test all these manually before hand. This will do nothing for my consistency, and it does rear its ugly head! Taking this to the table now...
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4 of the shots are on DVD1.
We went over the shots during our lesson.
The 5 way shot is on YouTube.
It would be very easy to get a consensus from proficient Pro1 users to confirm the correct visuals and sweeps that I presented.
Stan Shuffett
Not arguing, I just want to correct what I'm doing. Obviously for certain shots I'm wiring up my PSR wrong. I'll move this to private until I can put the correct information in the video. Admittedly I didn't check the DVD or manual pivots, I went from what looked right and was working for me.
Your execution of the shots was superb! Once you analyze the shots with your strictest attention to detail, I am confident you will see an area that can use some added attention. IMO, it will likely be visual.
Stan Shuffett
The system will take you to a correct angle on any equipment but tables are different.
That is where speed and spin play their huge role for banking.
For the 3,rail shot. I recommend draw and outside spin along with a pocket type speed.
Stan Shuffett
I've always used a bit of outside on most banks, I'll try blending in the draw. Thanks.
The draw will help to open it up. The draw and outside are needed for 2 reasons.
The CB is twisting a little reverse on the OB and the shot also requires some speed to get the OB around the table.
Stan Shuffett
I'm glad I posted this, it has been a bit of a realizer for me. My callouts were off on the banks, and it turns out I was making very minute adjustments on the sweep to find the pockets. In an example on the cross-corner bank, it is crucial (for me left eye dominant, right handed) to see just how slight the right sweep is. I need to move in *almost* directly into the CB, but only with a very slight sweep right to find the pocket. If there is no bank involved, it was not an issue.
I had a feeling that you would further refine visually and physically as result of checking over the shots once again at your table.
Great!
Stan Shuffett
I simply stated what I thought I learned from you (about different eye positions with the same visuals) after DVD1 came out.
For now, I'll try to return to my mostly silent mode on this subject, hoping that DVD2 provides additional clarity about the method.
You have quoted me on multiple occasions using the same sentence. I have objected and explained More than once and I am fairly certain that my posting history will bear out my concern.
Stan Shuffett