CTE PRO ONE: moving into the shot

stan shuffett said:
Scott,

The last sentence of your post is key.

CTE is primarily visual. All CB OB shot relationships require thickening or thinning.
To do this, the EYES/BODY must move left or right.
I have adequately described and demonstrated over and over how to employ left and right physical movements resulting in one's focal point moving to shot lines.

All shots begin with a visual offset equal to that of a 1/2 tip pivot. That offset is extremely important as it represents a first step in connecting to pockets.
So, all shots are the same visually. It will NEVER get any easier than that. Essentially, as I have said a ton of times , CTE is basically SEE AND SHOOT. ALLOW THE EYES TO LEAD . The visual movement is always equal. The physical moves can and will vary to some degree. That is normal.

I think I have done a fair job in describing the fact that pros play from an offset and absolutely sweep left and right into their shots. This has never been taught before. Have I described everything perfectly in language and math? No! Why? Pool is a visual/ physical game and the perfect language and math to describe every detail from ball address to the shot line does not exist. In spite of that I have spent 1000s of hours of study with the physical/visual aspect of the game and I am still logging the hours striving for perfection....so I can pass it along. I for one hope you arrive at perfection. I know what you mean! Lol

I am proud of what I have put forth and DVD2 will offer more discovery and insight that will be of great benefit to many.

Stan Shuffett

Visual sweeps were defined on DVD1. The definition for visual sweeps is the same today as it was on DVD1.
All zillion CTE shots start at the same visual offset. The VISUAL movement to CCB is the same for ALL shots. Every shot is the same. See the visuals and then naturally sweep either left or right to CCB. That's what is done over and over. Any tweaking that might occur will almost always be equal or less than what occurs for a zero angle shot. What I am saying is that sweeps to CCB are no more difficult than bending or turning into a straight in shot. Just see and do it.
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Once you see your visuals is ok to keep your eyes on them while dropping in to the shot or is it better to be looking at the cue ball for center, while sweeping? The reason I'm asking it just seems natural to fall in to the shot with my eyes looking at the ob.
 
evis said:
Once you see your visuals is ok to keep your eyes on them while dropping in to the shot or is it better to be looking at the cue ball for center, while sweeping? The reason I'm asking it just seems natural to fall in to the shot with my eyes looking at the ob.
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I've found recently then when I'm sweeping, I'm looking at the CB. However, I don't actually fully focus on CCB until I'm all the way down on the shot. The sweeps are so natural to me now, that maybe that's the reason this way works so well for me.
 
BeiberLvr said:
I've found recently then when I'm sweeping, I'm looking at the CB. However, I don't actually fully focus on CCB until I'm all the way down on the shot. The sweeps are so natural to me now, that maybe that's the reason this way works so well for me.
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I was practicing some long stops shots while trying this and it worked just fine, its just not what I'm use to doing.:smile:
 
evis said:
I was practicing some long stops shots while trying this and it worked just fine, its just not what I'm use to doing.:smile:
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It takes some getting used too, that's for sure. Which is one of the many reasons us users always say it takes table time and experience.

Because the sweeps themselves (once you have them mastered) take you directly to CCB, it might not even be necessary to look at anything. You could potentially do it with your eyes closed and fall right into the correct shot line. Kind of like a guitarist that can play well without ever looking at his or her hands.

With that being said, I still think it's good to look at the CB because it reinforces that final step.
 
BeiberLvr said:
It takes some getting used too, that's for sure. Which is one of the many reasons us users always say it takes table time and experience.

Because the sweeps themselves (once you have them mastered) take you directly to CCB, it might not even be necessary to look at anything. You could potentially do it with your eyes closed and fall right into the correct shot line. Kind of like a guitarist that can play well without ever looking at his or her hands.

With that being said, I still think it's good to look at the CB because it reinforces that final step.
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It would be interesting to know what other people do as well and what the normal practice should be.
 
Jpool1985 said:
so I'm sorry i am rambling on but hope can understand and get the idea what i am saying. I am using how Hal taught me and I only using stan version for sighting center to edge part.
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I think this just confuses people who are trying to learn to Pro One.

This is a thread about Pro One and you are describing in detail another system.

Hal's system is interesting and deserves it's own thread, so everyone is talking about the same thing.
 
BeiberLvr said:
It takes some getting used too, that's for sure. Which is one of the many reasons us users always say it takes table time and experience.

Because the sweeps themselves (once you have them mastered) take you directly to CCB, it might not even be necessary to look at anything. You could potentially do it with your eyes closed and fall right into the correct shot line. Kind of like a guitarist that can play well without ever looking at his or her hands.

With that being said, I still think it's good to look at the CB because it reinforces that final step.
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I think your right. I think as long as your visuals are good and you see which sweep to use.

I think you can stay locked on to your visuals or look to the cue ball while getting in to the shot. I'm thinking either one would work. I wonder what Stan thinks?
 
evis said:
I think your right. I think as long as your visuals are good and you see which sweep to use.

I think you can stay locked on to your visuals or look to the cue ball while getting in to the shot. I'm thinking either one would work. I wonder what Stan thinks?
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It takes both the CB and the OB for optimal results. The system can become so automatic, it can seem as though the OB is not used but the OB is indeed viewed, at the very least, peripherally, during any sweep.

Stan Shuffett
 
stan shuffett said:
It takes both the CB and the OB for optimal results. The system can become so automatic, it can seem as though the OB is not used but the OB is indeed viewed, at the very least, peripherally, during any sweep.

Stan Shuffett
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It's something I'm going to have to practice at...I'm just so use to looking at the ob when dropping in to the shot. Thanks for the feed back!
 
evis said:
It's something I'm going to have to practice at...I'm just so use to looking at the ob when dropping in to the shot. Thanks for the feed back!
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That's great but please know that you are peripherally factoring in the OB.

Stan Shuffett
 
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