Custom vs Production?

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was wondering how everyone thought about the age old issue of custom cues vs. production cues?

i have a buddy who claims that most production cues should be used for roasting hotdogs. he claims a custom cue will make you a much, much better player. for example, he said his buddy went from a '2' to a '6' in two weeks after he got his Nova Custom cue.

is that possible?
and what does everybody else think of this topic?

and i apologize if this topic has been discusses earlier, i am new to this forum.

thanks,
mike
 
You're buddy is full of it, if you can play it dont matter what kinda cue u use, a good player can play with a house cue an beat a weaker player using a custom cue. From what I have read online i think that people prefer custom cues because custom sounds better than production, people like saying they have a custom cue. What's funny is to me custom means that it was customly made for you, but a lot of the people i know didnt order them from the maker so it's not really custom to you, and the custom cues i have seen aren't one of one cues, so you could argue that a lot of "custom" cues aren't custom they are semi mass produced. I think that to even notice the difference between a custom cue and a production cue you'd have to be a higher level player, i have played with both and playability wise i could care less. But from an investment stand point i'd go with a custom cue. I really don't think it benefits you that much playing wise to merit spending a lot more money on a custom cue. A lot of people on this site sell custom cues so they are going to disagree with me obviously.
Where are u at in sw indiana? I was down there all last week.
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Johnson said:
You're buddy is full of it, if you can play it dont matter what kinda cue u use, a good player can play with a house cue an beat a weaker player using a custom cue. From what I have read online i think that people prefer custom cues because custom sounds better than production, people like saying they have a custom cue. What's funny is to me custom means that it was customly made for you, but a lot of the people i know didnt order them from the maker so it's not really custom to you, and the custom cues i have seen aren't one of one cues, so you could argue that a lot of "custom" cues aren't custom they are semi mass produced. I think that to even notice the difference between a custom cue and a production cue you'd have to be a higher level player, i have played with both and playability wise i could care less. But from an investment stand point i'd go with a custom cue. I really don't think it benefits you that much playing wise to merit spending a lot more money on a custom cue. A lot of people on this site sell custom cues so they are going to disagree with me obviously.
Where are u at in sw indiana? I was down there all last week.

I think it's a good idea to get a decent medium-priced production cue first. Learn your game and figure out what your preferences are over a period of time. When you play someone, ask them about their cue and what they like about it. If the other player doesn't mind, shoot a couple of shots with their cue and after a while, you'll get a feel for what you like. Different cues have different hits. Predators, Pechaurs, McDermotts, Southwests etc. all hit a little differently. You can get a custom cue from just about any of them. The length, taper of the shaft, type of joint, type of wrap, all of that can be customized to fit your needs. There are many cuemakers out there and we have several on this board. I'm sure they will weigh-in here for a little helpful advice too. JMHO. Hope it helps. Good luck.
 
SW Indiana as in Loogootee. Tom "Dr Cue" Rossman is my instructor buddy. i bought a new Gold Crown IV from Orners in January of 2003, play with a Lucasi, Cuetec, as well as a Nova Custom and Madison Bob Custom Break cue.

yep, i agree, the main thing is not the cue, but rather the cueist. my buddy has a tendency to over-exaggerate on everything, i learned that quite quickly with him.

mike
 
custom or production...

Below was found on dictionary.com about custom and production.
IMO, a production cue is a cue that is mass produced similar to an assembly line. A custom cue is made by one or very few people at a time and not in mass quantities. A custom cue maker can still have a line of cues, but not in large quantities and custom cues are generally made from scratch in one shop, not assebled with parts from different companies.
JMO!

Custom:
1. Made to order.
2. Specializing in the making or selling of made-to-order goods: a custom tailor.

Production:
1. The act or process of producing: timber used for the production of lumber and paper.
2. The fact or process of being produced: a movie going into production.
3. The creation of value or wealth by producing goods and services.
4. The total output, as of a commodity: increased production at the plant.
5. Something produced; a product: “Of all the productions of land, milk is perhaps the most perishable” (Adam Smith).
6. A work of art or literature.
7. A work produced for the stage, screen, television, or radio.
8. A staging or presentation of a theatrical work: a new Broadway production of a musical.
9.A situation or display that is exaggerated or unduly complicated: made a production out of the birthday party.

Zim
 
Custom for me...

The main difference between Custom Cues and Production Cues are workmanship. As another posted, Production Cues are factory made with nothing more than overall inspection to determine if they are OK to sell. Meucci, for instance, has closed the factory and is now only manufacturing custom cues. Not made by many different workers.

Quality is another big issue. If you have a machine cutting pieces out, it is only as accurate as the machine. A Custom maker, for instance can keep going over something to ensure it is perfect. As I posted on another thread, the joint stands out most as the noticible difference. When I joint my Tascarella together, I need only tighten it with my fingertips. The joint is perfectly flush. Production cues that are often put together by machine, won't go over and over the joint to make sure it is absolutely perfect.
The workmanship is key in the materals used to make the cue, the time it takes, etc. Birds Eye Maple is not Birds Eye Maple. There are different qualitied of the wood and is noticable in most Custom jobs. Production Cue makers will buy large quantities and check things like density of the wood, hardness, etc., but not examine the wood to see where the most elaborate cut would be. Also, I have yet to find a Production Cue that will come with Ivory Joint, ferrel, inlays either. There are many other materials you will find in Custom Cues that will not be able to be found in a Production Cue.

Production sticks are normally turned out quickly. Some Custom Cue makers also follow this practice, but you will find that they are cheaper than someone that takes several years to finish one. Drying and curing of the shafts to ensure they probably won't naturally warp over time is additional time and effort. While undergoing this process, the shafts that start to bow are discarded. This helps ensure you will be happy with your investment for years to come.

I do agree that Custom Cues, on average, have a better hit and feel than Production Cues. It will not make you a better player, but it really can help you along. If you are an inexperienced player and have to force the cueball to draw, follow, transfer english, etc., you are working harder than you need to and are unable to concentrate and develop the general mechanics for the game. If you are shooting with a stick that makes the work seem effortless, you are more able to focus on the more important aspects of the game, like control. So realisticly, a better cue can help you to make yourself a better player, not make you a better player.

As for the players who can bet anyone woth any piece of wood, they would agree that they would rather shoot with something that feels good, but where's the money in that. There is also the factor of natural tallent. Some people can work all their lives to develop a good game, but with a natural tallent for the game, it comes along much easier.

Regardless, what it all comes down to is to shoot with what makes you happy. You probably can beat me with the back end of the cue, but you won't enjoy how it looks or feels.

DrCue'sProtege said:
was wondering how everyone thought about the age old issue of custom cues vs. production cues?

i have a buddy who claims that most production cues should be used for roasting hotdogs. he claims a custom cue will make you a much, much better player. for example, he said his buddy went from a '2' to a '6' in two weeks after he got his Nova Custom cue.

is that possible?
and what does everybody else think of this topic?

and i apologize if this topic has been discusses earlier, i am new to this forum.

thanks,
mike
 
I was down in princeton mainly all last week, im from around there, i have more fun playing snooker for nothing down there than winning tournies up here. They have a handful of really good snooker players. Is there anybody in you're area that likes to gamble, i was curious about vincennes if they had any players, i was looking for some new places to go next time i'm down there.

And about custom cues like u said it's made to order, specifically for you, that defeats the purpose to me to buy second hand ones third hands which ever, people buy them because of the word custom, when to them the cue is not custom built. It's even more annoying all the scam artists on ebay put custom cue in the title of their auctions for junk $50 cues, but people fall for it and buy them for double/triple what they are actually worth. And the people that i know that buy so called custom cues, you can buy the exact same cue that they have, so it's not really custom, just built buy a guy who makes custom cues.
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It's true that a custom cue should be made to your specs or else it's not really a custom cue at least for the shooter. I also believe that it's kinda like a status symbol that somone can afford a custom cue even even though it's a simple one.
 
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