I dont know what to do???? I have been playing pool for a while and I was really starting to get good. I was really confident in my game and I almost felt like I could make anything. All of a sudden a few weeks ago I started to play terrible. Im all over the place with the cueball, way off with my shots and my break dont even get me started. Its seems as if I have never played before. It all started when I got my new cue. I was playing with a production Sigel for a while and after I started to get really good I decided that I should upgrade to something better so I had Pechauer make me a custom cue. It was awesome and the first day I played with it, it was perfect. Very solid hit and felt a lot better than the Sigel. After the first day it has been downhill from there. Now the one thing that is really different about the Pechauer is that it has a wood wrap rather than a linen wrap. Now I really dont think that it is that big of a deal but what I want to know is has this ever happened to anyone else after switching to a wrapless cue? Its ridiculous and embarassing. I dont know whats wrong. Im not doing anything different. Could it be possible that its the cue????? PLEASE SOMEONE HELP!!!!!!!!!!
Did the cue do it ?????
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Since I only play with one brand of cue, I wouldn't know.
Have someone check your mechanics now.
Heck, how can Barry Bonds hit .500 in one week and hit .100 the next week? Batting instructors are paid to figure it out why.
Have someone check your mechanics now.
Heck, how can Barry Bonds hit .500 in one week and hit .100 the next week? Batting instructors are paid to figure it out why.
back to the basics and Take a week off! Guaranteed to help! Weird but true! Maybe read a good pool book. Watch some videos. dont have any videos, go to www.billiardclub.net and watch the free streaming videos.
Thanks
Brady
Thanks
Brady
Hi nosaj03,
I think nbc is on to something. If you really want to do some testing, have a pro cue repair person look at both the Sigel and Pechauer tips. If you prefer the tip that the Sigel came with, have one installed on the other cue and play with it. Some other points might be the ferrule, type of shaft taper, diameter of the shaft, type of joint and pin and balance of the cues. Most of those things may cause you to "miss" shots you normally make. Don't give up. Decide which cue you really want to play with and then PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!
I think nbc is on to something. If you really want to do some testing, have a pro cue repair person look at both the Sigel and Pechauer tips. If you prefer the tip that the Sigel came with, have one installed on the other cue and play with it. Some other points might be the ferrule, type of shaft taper, diameter of the shaft, type of joint and pin and balance of the cues. Most of those things may cause you to "miss" shots you normally make. Don't give up. Decide which cue you really want to play with and then PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE!
I'm with Brady, back to basics. Just set up some progressively harder shots and work at it for a while. Practice stroking the cueball up and down the table to ensure you are hitting them true.
Most of all, don't beat yourself up! Slumps happen, just ask Corey Duell........
Most of all, don't beat yourself up! Slumps happen, just ask Corey Duell........
I was playing with a "sneaky pete" or "hustler" cue as some call it. I upgraded to a nice Schon, but after playing with it for a couple of weeks, I realized I didn't like a cue with a wrap. Anyways, I'm back to the hustler cue. The Schon is in the closet. What's that Pechauer look like? Wanna make some kind of swap?
Reno said:
Reno,
If you like the way the Schon hits, contact Evan Clarke at Schon. They can clear coat the wrap for you. In appearance, the wrap looks just like a Meucci. I had mine done several years ago. It has all the benefits of a wrapless cue with that great Schon hit.
Well I thank you all for your suggestions. I went out to play last night and I didnt play too bad. I took into consideration what you people were saying about going back to basics and I was taking it easy and just focusing on my stroke, stance, bridge etc. After a while it was kinda coming back to me, I started to play a little better. The mental game was a big part because I started to tell myself inside that this is no big deal and to just play and have fun. Suprisingly enough after having that kind of mindset. I was actually feeling like I had control over my game again. After play a few games, I actually started to feel the difference in the cue and how great it plays. My game is still nowhere near where I want it to be but you have walk before you can run.
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BradyBehrman is right
take a lesson from Fast Eddie Felson(i know it's just a movie) in the color of money, when he's not playing his best he gets back to the basics and takes a break from those big money games.
take a lesson from Fast Eddie Felson(i know it's just a movie) in the color of money, when he's not playing his best he gets back to the basics and takes a break from those big money games.
I dont mean to offend you but i dont think a cue makes a hell of alot of a difference. This is mostly mental. The worse you play the lower your confidence drops and you are gonna look for something to blame. I can pick up a cue with no tip and still beat just about anyone at the bar. Consentrate on your stroke more than anything and the rest will follow. I'm with Brady on this one. Take a week off and watch some videos. After i watch a video i seem to be able to find my stroke instantly right after. It almost feels like cheating. Hope it helps.
Mental is 75% of the game, isn't it?
I know two guys at the pool hall who shoot with really skinny and whippy shafts. To this day, they still can't figure out why they're missing with those shafts.
Joseph Cues said:Mental is 75% of the game, isn't it?
I know two guys at the pool hall who shoot with really skinny and whippy shafts. To this day, they still can't figure out why they're missing with those shafts.
I highly doubt it's because of the shafts. If what you are saying is that they miss alot because of deflection, if they were good players they wouldn't use much sidespin anyways. When I used to go out and find money games at other poolrooms, the people I would look for are the ones who use sidespin on 90% of their shots, and avoid the ones who use center on 90% of their shots.
Hi there !
Playing with a wrapless cue might change your grip hand position on the cue and you might get "funny grip" by either gripping too far or too close to the joint unintentionally. Otherwise, I'd say it's just a mental barrier you are facing. It's funny, I demand that I have a wrap in all my cues, but my grip is located in the butt sleeve under the wrap. The wrap just reminds me not to grip the cue too close to the joint.
Good luck with your new Pechauer. I've tried a couple and I think they play excellent.
Playing with a wrapless cue might change your grip hand position on the cue and you might get "funny grip" by either gripping too far or too close to the joint unintentionally. Otherwise, I'd say it's just a mental barrier you are facing. It's funny, I demand that I have a wrap in all my cues, but my grip is located in the butt sleeve under the wrap. The wrap just reminds me not to grip the cue too close to the joint.
Good luck with your new Pechauer. I've tried a couple and I think they play excellent.
I love this we all have something driffrent to say ok .Look at this for the problem to fix
1-the cue has no wrap u got use to a wrap.Right
2- the one u had made is it a wood to wood ? And if so when it's stiff as all day.And u'll feel more of the ball on contact.
3-what kind of tips are on the cue? All this come in to play.With ball reaction..
4- What kind of drills have u done with this new cue.If not it time to back to to school for this new Cue..
Good luck...
1-the cue has no wrap u got use to a wrap.Right
2- the one u had made is it a wood to wood ? And if so when it's stiff as all day.And u'll feel more of the ball on contact.
3-what kind of tips are on the cue? All this come in to play.With ball reaction..
4- What kind of drills have u done with this new cue.If not it time to back to to school for this new Cue..
Good luck...
Nosa,
I had a very similar experience, the difference is that I went from a Pechauer to a Jacoby. I had a terrible time getting used to the Jacoby. I thought I was going to quit and go back to the Pechauer but decided to stick it out and I'm glad I did. It took me about 3 weeks of practice before I started shooting better. Other players were getting tired of hearing me say I hadn't gotten used to the new cue yet. I'm sure they thought I was just making excuses. Now I'm glad I stuck with it. I love my Jacoby now!
I may be wrong, but I think the Pechauer has a little different hit due to the way it's balanced. I had a 19 oz cue Pechauer and it felt like it was lighter and I think that's just the way it's made. I loved the cue and I'm sure you will too when you get used to it, but it will take some time. Btw, the only reason I went to a Jacoby is because my Pechauer was a little too short and I've always wanted a leather wrap. Believe me, when you get used to that Pechauer, you're going to fall in love with it, so just keep on practicing and you're game will probably come back and then you'll start getting better and better.
Good luck!
I had a very similar experience, the difference is that I went from a Pechauer to a Jacoby. I had a terrible time getting used to the Jacoby. I thought I was going to quit and go back to the Pechauer but decided to stick it out and I'm glad I did. It took me about 3 weeks of practice before I started shooting better. Other players were getting tired of hearing me say I hadn't gotten used to the new cue yet. I'm sure they thought I was just making excuses. Now I'm glad I stuck with it. I love my Jacoby now!
I may be wrong, but I think the Pechauer has a little different hit due to the way it's balanced. I had a 19 oz cue Pechauer and it felt like it was lighter and I think that's just the way it's made. I loved the cue and I'm sure you will too when you get used to it, but it will take some time. Btw, the only reason I went to a Jacoby is because my Pechauer was a little too short and I've always wanted a leather wrap. Believe me, when you get used to that Pechauer, you're going to fall in love with it, so just keep on practicing and you're game will probably come back and then you'll start getting better and better.
Good luck!
Rickw said:
Thanks. Ive been playing with it for only a few weeks now and Im starting to appreciate it more and my game is coming back little by little. I really like the cue and it was made very well. Its 20oz but feels lighter like you said. It is just well balance. I am definately going to love it.... well until my new DZ comes in in April . My girlfriend is going to kill me
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Obviously a Porsche is going to take the curves differently than a Camaro. The point being that when you get used to one thing it is unlikely that you will have the same feeling and or performance with another thing right away.
Cues are funny things. I have been playing for over 20 years and selling cues for over 14. I have had a lot of cues personally. Some of them felt good to me right away and I had no problem playing comfortably. Some of them I had to kind of "play" into for a while until I felt comfortable. Others never felt comoftable to me.
I have had two players try a cue where one hates it and the next one loves it. One time I had a player try a Meucci and declare it the stiffest cue he ever tried - too stiff for him - and then in the next ten minutes he bought another cue from me with a shaft you could barely bend - declaring it perfect?????
The point is that YOU are the one who has to adjust because the cue can't. Sometimes you will get that sweet one that just feels perfect and other times you will need to take it throug a bunch of curves to see what you can do with it.
John
Cues are funny things. I have been playing for over 20 years and selling cues for over 14. I have had a lot of cues personally. Some of them felt good to me right away and I had no problem playing comfortably. Some of them I had to kind of "play" into for a while until I felt comfortable. Others never felt comoftable to me.
I have had two players try a cue where one hates it and the next one loves it. One time I had a player try a Meucci and declare it the stiffest cue he ever tried - too stiff for him - and then in the next ten minutes he bought another cue from me with a shaft you could barely bend - declaring it perfect?????
The point is that YOU are the one who has to adjust because the cue can't. Sometimes you will get that sweet one that just feels perfect and other times you will need to take it throug a bunch of curves to see what you can do with it.
John