Elkmaster like Kamui SS?

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bignick31985

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I've been thinking of trying out a Kamui, mainly just to change it up. But I've had an Elkmaster on my 314-2 for a while and like it. I've tried the Moori Quick and Triangle, but still went back to the Elkmaster.

In case I do decide to give the Kamui a go, is the Slow or Super Slow more like an Elkmaster?

Btw, I've checked the forums and haven't found a comparison between the Elkmaster and Kamui, hence the post. I've seen quite a few comparisons to other tips however.
 
ELKMASTER = 36 CENTS.... Kamui = 25 dollars if your looking for a Kamui that plays like a elkmaster you would be better sticking with the Elkmaster...:wink:
 
The King said:
ELKMASTER = 36 CENTS.... Kamui = 25 dollars if your looking for a Kamui that plays like a elkmaster you would be better sticking with the Elkmaster...:wink:
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I agree. Elkmaster is my tip of choice on all my cues. It's a single non-layered tip. It's safe to Tip-Pik (if that's your tool of choice) because there are no layers to delaminate. Safe to Tip-Pik, Tip Tapper, Cue Cube, sandpaper, whatever you want to do. No layers to delaminate.

The only thing you have to do -- and used to be a standard "ho hum" usual tip maintenance task du-jour, is to de-mushroom the tip. The trick I use with my Elkmasters, is to play several racks of "slam-ball" -- basically hitting shots as hard and as accurately as you can (these two go together; obviously you have to be more accurate when hitting the shot hard, so you get two bennies for the price of one by practicing and greasing your power stroke), to compress the tip. Once compressed (and then de-mushroomed), the Elkmaster enters a state of diminishing compression. You have to maintain the tip less and less. My two-month-old Elkmasters require no maintenance. At all. Seriously.

Hope this is helpful.
-Sean
 
I keep a tip burnisher with me in my case, among other things. Also have the Porper shaver. All that is part of my regular maintenance on the cues.

The shape has held good for a while now. Both the g/f's cue and mine have the Elkmaster as well.

Sometimes I just get an urge to switch it up.
 
bignick31985 said:
I've been thinking of trying out a Kamui, mainly just to change it up. But I've had an Elkmaster on my 314-2 for a while and like it. I've tried the Moori Quick and Triangle, but still went back to the Elkmaster.

In case I do decide to give the Kamui a go, is the Slow or Super Slow more like an Elkmaster?

Btw, I've checked the forums and haven't found a comparison between the Elkmaster and Kamui, hence the post. I've seen quite a few comparisons to other tips however.
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Elkmaster is softer than the Super Soft.
 
Way softer than SS.. stick with what your used to... or try the kamui , either way find one and STICK with it! I dont think there is a tip softer than an elk master..? I think if you were to compare the SS to a non layered production tip it would be closer to a LePro maybe ..?
 
I love an only use kamui tips. My choice is soft kamui browns. For me with my below par stroke I have fewer miscues. They really hold chalk. They are expensive but I feel its all part of my game. And it keep my confidence at a higher level. Hope this helps. :smile:
 
sfleinen said:
I agree. Elkmaster is my tip of choice on all my cues. It's a single non-layered tip. It's safe to Tip-Pik (if that's your tool of choice) because there are no layers to delaminate. Safe to Tip-Pik, Tip Tapper, Cue Cube, sandpaper, whatever you want to do. No layers to delaminate.

The only thing you have to do -- and used to be a standard "ho hum" usual tip maintenance task du-jour, is to de-mushroom the tip. The trick I use with my Elkmasters, is to play several racks of "slam-ball" -- basically hitting shots as hard and as accurately as you can (these two go together; obviously you have to be more accurate when hitting the shot hard, so you get two bennies for the price of one by practicing and greasing your power stroke), to compress the tip. Once compressed (and then de-mushroomed), the Elkmaster enters a state of diminishing compression. You have to maintain the tip less and less. My two-month-old Elkmasters require no maintenance. At all. Seriously.

Hope this is helpful.
-Sean
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Hi Sean,

Good comments. I have used only the Elkmaster for 20 years. I did recently try the Kamui Soft just out of curiousity. I thought they played very similar but the Kamui glazed over pretty quick, which the Elk rarely does.

With regard to the Elk mushrooming issue.....when I put a new tip on, I simply taper the tip approx 1 millimeter less at the top. Within a couple of days play the tip "flattens" to parallel. At that point I literally do nothing to the tip for it's whole life.

Of course, the only downside to a soft tip is that I need to replace every 5 months or so.....but I consider this a small price to pay for an incredibly consistent tip.

Thanks. Bernie.
 
bearsafety said:
Way softer than SS.. stick with what your used to... or try the kamui , either way find one and STICK with it! I dont think there is a tip softer than an elk master..? I think if you were to compare the SS to a non layered production tip it would be closer to a LePro maybe ..?
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No LePro is much harder. Can't think of a good comparison off hand.
 
Elkmaster is THE BEST.....

A very well pressed Elk Master is surprisingly the BEST and MOST conistent tip I have ever used. An unpressed EM will need constant maintenance until it's pressed permanently from use. I've gone through a LOT of different tips such as original moori, kamui, kamui blacks, molavia, diamondback, black diamond, everest, Sniper etc...and out of all the thoroughly pressed elkmasted was IT. Sniper comes in second.
 
Elkmaster or Kamui my observation

I have been a soft tip (elkmaster) player for years. Anybody that plays with the elk knows it is usually too soft at the beginning and must be used to break with to get it compacted to where it plays right.

I have tried compressing my own but I don't like the hardness inconsistency. I know if you have the right setup this can be solve but personaly I don't want to go thru all that.

I have tried many, many tips trying to get a tip that plays like a elmaster after the break in period. The kamui black soft is a darn close if not clone replacement imop.

The ss to me was a little softer and the soft was the one. I have no problem with it glazing or or quickly mushrooming like the elmaster. Try the black soft I think you will be surprised with its soft tip performance.

The elmaster is very reasonably priced plays great after broken in but you will find in a box of 50 some stay spongey after installation and are throw aways.

Try the kamui black soft,make your decision and let az know what you think. I would be interested in your opinion.
 
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