Example of How I Use Pro One
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can you show examples of other shots please??? i'm new to CTE/PRO1.
How do we do it if the angle is
10 degrees to the right
20 degrees to the right
30 degrees to the right
45 degrees to the right
60 degrees to the right
90 degrees to the right.
please ^_^
How do we do it if the angle is
10 degrees to the right
20 degrees to the right
30 degrees to the right
45 degrees to the right
60 degrees to the right
90 degrees to the right.
please ^_^
You should get Stan's Pro One DVD, watch it and work on the practice shots. It's not an angle system, it is a visual system.
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Another thing i found useful that was kind of an "ah ha" moment was not forcing myself to see a visual that wasn't there. For example every time there is a steep back cut I would try to always align myself with the visual B and tried to sweep right or left and I would consistently miss the ball. After reading some of the post about single visuals I trield the back cuts again but only using visuals A or C with the CTEL pointing into space i would still move my eye right or left doing the visual sweeps and I am now consistently making those back cuts in.
The thin A and C were added after the first DVD.
ahhh thats good to know.
Leafs,
Very timely post. I was actually emailing with Stan last night about this very thing.
I've been using Pro1 for almost two years, also been using SEE for 4 - 5 months and have incorporated the two pretty well for myself. But I recently re-dedicated myself to playing/improving and working on even more consistency and switched some things around, including approaching the shot from behind as opposed to in my stance. After a few sessions of missing a few more shots than normal, I broke them down and realized that most of my additional misses were right pivots/sweeps!
I realized that because I was standing behind the shot with both feet, when I step in for a right visual pivot/sweep I was sometimes crossing myself up. That is, stepping forward as part of my natural stance but also trying to move to CCB from the right. Problem was sometimes, depending on the shot, my step forward was turning my body somewhat, and the resulting move to CCB was not a strong enough right pivot and I would miss thick.
So your notes on the difference between left and right movements is spot on. If you pick up the visuals when in your final stance (as I did when learning), or don't have a strong step forward, it's probably not a big deal. Otherwise you really have to be sure you start your visual movement or sweep first before stepping and let the step support your eyes and not the other way around. I just realized this last night after a few less than accurate sessions and think it's all fixed now, maybe it will help someone else.
Scott
Very timely post. I was actually emailing with Stan last night about this very thing.
I've been using Pro1 for almost two years, also been using SEE for 4 - 5 months and have incorporated the two pretty well for myself. But I recently re-dedicated myself to playing/improving and working on even more consistency and switched some things around, including approaching the shot from behind as opposed to in my stance. After a few sessions of missing a few more shots than normal, I broke them down and realized that most of my additional misses were right pivots/sweeps!
I realized that because I was standing behind the shot with both feet, when I step in for a right visual pivot/sweep I was sometimes crossing myself up. That is, stepping forward as part of my natural stance but also trying to move to CCB from the right. Problem was sometimes, depending on the shot, my step forward was turning my body somewhat, and the resulting move to CCB was not a strong enough right pivot and I would miss thick.
So your notes on the difference between left and right movements is spot on. If you pick up the visuals when in your final stance (as I did when learning), or don't have a strong step forward, it's probably not a big deal. Otherwise you really have to be sure you start your visual movement or sweep first before stepping and let the step support your eyes and not the other way around. I just realized this last night after a few less than accurate sessions and think it's all fixed now, maybe it will help someone else.
Scott
Pls correct me if i'm wrong.
1.) Visualize Center to edge line ( if cutting to left, Center of CB to LEFT edge of OB)
2.) visualize outer edge of CB to to A B or C of OB
3.) visualize a center line BETWEEN #1 and #2.
4.) determine whether to use left or right pivot. (1 tip to left/right)
THis is by far the only thing i have understood. Please help thanks
1.) Visualize Center to edge line ( if cutting to left, Center of CB to LEFT edge of OB)
2.) visualize outer edge of CB to to A B or C of OB
3.) visualize a center line BETWEEN #1 and #2.
4.) determine whether to use left or right pivot. (1 tip to left/right)
THis is by far the only thing i have understood. Please help thanks
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Pls correct me if i'm wrong.
1.) Visualize Center to edge line ( if cutting to left, Center of CB to LEFT edge of OB)
No, CTEL is outside of the cut.
2.) visualize outer edge of CB to to A B or C of OB
Secondary line is inside the cut.
3.) visualize a center line BETWEEN #1 and #2.
No between lines are necessary.
4.) determine whether to use left or right pivot. (1 tip to left/right)
1/2 tip left or right of center cue ball.
THis is by far the only thing i have understood. Please help thanks
Zero for 4, no wonder you are confused
Zero for 4, no wonder you are confused
what are we going to do with the 2 lines? CTEL and the Edge to A/B/C or 1/8 ?
Depends on the shot. The DVD is pretty straight forward on all of this?
That is funny - Pro One is visual and not mapped to angles.
If you can provide me specific shots I would be happy to help and even create a small video - I am enjoying my new camera.
Mohrt has created an awesome template for this purpose - http://www.ohrt.com/billiards/ProOnePractice.pdf
If you can provide me specific shots I would be happy to help and even create a small video - I am enjoying my new camera.
Mohrt has created an awesome template for this purpose - http://www.ohrt.com/billiards/ProOnePractice.pdf
There you go.
Here is something to make a video of. Take a shot such as 17-27, and run through all the visuals and pivots, see where each shot takes you. This is a fun exercise.
sir,
I'd be honest, I'm only a C player. and there are some angles which I have troubles on. Some 25, 35, 40, 50 degrees area. I'm okay with thin cut shots because i can vizualize the shots easier.
The shots close to a half ball, i have troubles recognizing. And i have seen videos saying that CTE PRO1 will lead you to the ghost ball without adjustments.
I became curious and I wanna try out.
If you could make me a video on these angles, I'd kiss you with gratitude LOL ^_^
Thanks!!!!
I have troubles recognizing angles with
25' (slightly less than a half ball hit)
35' (slightly more than a half ball hit)
40-45 degrees (slightly less than a 1/4 hit)
These 3 gives me troubles at times.
I've seen your videos where you call the visuals of each shot and the way i see it is just by looking at it and doing the CTEL and the Edge to ABC + left/right pivot, you didn't seem to have to adjust, your cue stick is lined up to the correct angle. This is why i'm very interested to learn Pro1.
If you could do me a video i'd appreciate it very very much! :thumbup:
Thank you for your help.
25' (slightly less than a half ball hit)
35' (slightly more than a half ball hit)
40-45 degrees (slightly less than a 1/4 hit)
These 3 gives me troubles at times.
I've seen your videos where you call the visuals of each shot and the way i see it is just by looking at it and doing the CTEL and the Edge to ABC + left/right pivot, you didn't seem to have to adjust, your cue stick is lined up to the correct angle. This is why i'm very interested to learn Pro1.
If you could do me a video i'd appreciate it very very much! :thumbup:
Thank you for your help.
Do you own the DVD? It helps a lot. Impossible to learn just through the forums.
QUOTE=kwoshunli;4054393]I have troubles recognizing angles with
25' (slightly less than a half ball hit)
35' (slightly more than a half ball hit)
40-45 degrees (slightly less than a 1/4 hit)
These 3 gives me troubles at times.
I've seen your videos where you call the visuals of each shot and the way i see it is just by looking at it and doing the CTEL and the Edge to ABC + left/right pivot, you didn't seem to have to adjust, your cue stick is lined up to the correct angle. This is why i'm very interested to learn Pro1.
If you could do me a video i'd appreciate it very very much! :thumbup:
Thank you for your help.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=kwoshunli;4054393]I have troubles recognizing angles with
25' (slightly less than a half ball hit)
35' (slightly more than a half ball hit)
40-45 degrees (slightly less than a 1/4 hit)
These 3 gives me troubles at times.
I've seen your videos where you call the visuals of each shot and the way i see it is just by looking at it and doing the CTEL and the Edge to ABC + left/right pivot, you didn't seem to have to adjust, your cue stick is lined up to the correct angle. This is why i'm very interested to learn Pro1.
If you could do me a video i'd appreciate it very very much! :thumbup:
Thank you for your help.[/QUOTE]
I once had it. but I lost it. I only watched it couple of times. And now i can't afford to buy it again.
WHen i watched, i wasn't really able to digest everything.
WHen i watched, i wasn't really able to digest everything.