Ferrule on McDermott shaft

AlexandruM

AlexandruM

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Hi, everybody.

I have an McDermott Lucky (L23) cue, made in China. I used it for 5 years and suddenly in one day the ferrule just cracks. I didn't abuse the cue, and didn't break with him.

My question is, what type of ferrule McD uses on their Lucky shafts, material, length, threaded/non threaded, thread length?
Will be this ferrule good for McD shaft?
http://www.cuecomponents.com/ivfema.html

I want to change the ferrule by myself, we have no cuemakers in our country, can it be changed without a lathe?

Here is the cracked ferrule.
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Thank you.
 
Not sure about Lucky, but regular McDermott's that I've seen use a half-threaded ferrule tenon. I don't remember the diameter. You can always pull that cracked ferrule off and see for yourself. Also not sure how you would change a ferrule without a lathe though. Maybe check your warranty policy? Best of luck.
 
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im not sure, but the last lucky i put a tip on, it was a ver soft material. I would just replace it with whatever you like best. Juma or ivorine 3 something along those lines.
 
I took the cracked ferrule off, it's a half-threaded ferrule tenon. Ferrule length is 1.02", the tenon diameter is 0.315".
Can I use any Loctite gel adhesive to install the ferrule?

PS McD Lucky cues had no warranty.

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AlexandruM said:
I took the cracked ferrule off, it's a half-threaded ferrule tenon. Ferrule length is 1.02", the tenon diameter is 0.315".
Can I use any Loctite gel adhesive to install the ferrule?

PS McD Lucky cues had no warranty.

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Next to just putting on a tip, installing a ferrule is close to the easiest cue repair, but, you still need equipment and some practice to do a proper job. Most repair mechanics make their own ferrules but you can probably find some already made on the internet. Now your problem is the fitting of the ferrule. First, you must clean up the threads on the tenon. When the ferrule comes it will be much larger in diameter than the shaft. You must find someone with a lathe or some kind of apparatus to turn the ferrule down to the same size as the shaft.

As far as glue. Although super glue has a place in cue building and repair, I'm not a proponent of it for installing ferrules. It would be a much better job if you used epoxy. I myself normally use 5-minute epoxy for ferrules.

Dick
 
rhncue said:
next to just putting on a tip, installing a ferrule is close to the easiest cue repair, but, you still need equipment and some practice to do a proper job. Most repair mechanics make their own ferrules but you can probably find some already made on the internet. Now your problem is the fitting of the ferrule. First, you must clean up the threads on the tenon. When the ferrule comes it will be much larger in diameter than the shaft. You must find someone with a lathe or some kind of apparatus to turn the ferrule down to the same size as the shaft.

As far as glue. Although super glue has a place in cue building and repair, i'm not a proponent of it for installing ferrules. It would be a much better job if you used epoxy. I myself normally use 5-minute epoxy for ferrules.

Dick
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everything dick just said^^^^^^^
 
Thank you all for replies, I'll take my chance and will install it 100% hand made. Sand paper and rolling the shaft on my knees will be the way to go :)
 
AlexandruM said:
Thank you all for replies, I'll take my chance and will install it 100% hand made. Sand paper and rolling the shaft on my knees will be the way to go :)
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Please post the after picture so we can laugh.

At least make one of those drill lathes, hand rolling it will look so bad and will probably drive your bridge hand nuts.
 
Do you have a drill or drill press?

I would probably tape off the wood below the ferrule first for protection. You might also try using a sanding block to keep the ferrule level (keep even pressure so as not to have a tapered ferrule), and be careful not to sand the wood of the shaft, or you'll end up like the other guy's thread! If you don't have epoxy, wood glue might also work. Buy a pre-drilled ferrule with as close of an ID as possible, but smaller is better. I imagine you can take material off the inside diameter with the right size drill bit, or if needed, slightly sand down the tenon until the ferrule fits snug. Buy a softer ferrule material like juma, maybe more than one in case you goof up.

I hope this advice helps, I'm just trying to think how I would do it with limited resources that you have. At the end of the day, it's just a McD lucky cue, you can always buy a second shaft. If you're really stingy, go ahead and cut off the tenon, face the end of the shaft, glue on a new tip and go ferrule-less! Lol, good luck either way. Some may laugh, but it sounds like you just want to play some pool, which is all good in my book.
 
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Without a lathe, most ferrules are so hard they take FOREVER to sand down!

What Galipeau, said is a great idea,

JUST CUT OFF THE TENON

--Face off the end of the wood so it is totally FLAT, no high or low spots

BUY a OB CARBON FIBER PAD--These can be bought from OB or Seyberts or Muellers for $2.00 a pad or a pack of 5 for $13.00
--Glue this on with a Loctite Gel with Rubberized

Then Install a Tip of your Choice to the Carbon Fiber Pad

Then sand, blend, burnish, wax and Polish out to 2000

It should turn out pretty nice and many times they hit SPORTY!!

Total repair will probably cost $15.00 plus Tip

GOOD LUCK


Mike 'acedonkeyace' Kennedy:thumbup:
 
Hmm, the ferrule less shaft is an interesting option. This cue is not may main player cue, just a spare one, so I can afford to make couple experiments. I' ll let you know the results.
I ordered couple ferrules from Joe Barringer shop, so I'll give a try when they arrives, in one month.
 
AlexandruM said:
Hmm, the ferrule less shaft is an interesting option. This cue is not may main player cue, just a spare one, so I can afford to make couple experiments. I' ll let you know the results.
I ordered couple ferrules from Joe Barringer shop, so I'll give a try when they arrives, in one month.
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If you pay the shipping, I will fix it for nothing since there is no one in your area to do that kind of work.
 
stevel said:
If you pay the shipping, I will fix it for nothing since there is no one in your area to do that kind of work.
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Wow, thank you for such a generous offer, but shipping to USA from Europe and back is quite expensive, and make no reason for a shaft like this.
I can buy locally a new shaft made by Tony Bautista for 60$ so this will be my alternative in case I screw something with ferrule installation.

Thank you again for your offer.
 
I changed the ferrule using a drill shaft "lathe". It was a nice experience. The cue shoot pretty well.

Here is the result, a juma ferrule.

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