ferrule ?

lacey6783

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To ivory or not to ivory.Is it worth the time and money.I was wanting one as I hear so much about them.But I was told theres no real difference except for just to add more ivory to your cue.
 
They say that ivory ferrules have the most feel. Ive never played with them but a lot of the big cuemakers like Hercek, Scruggs, Mottey, White etc all come standard with Ivory ferrules, so I guess that says something. From what I understand Ivory ferrules stand a greater chance of cracking compared to other materials but I may be wrong. I was thinking about trying them out. As far as them being worth the price, I would say yeah why not.
 
lacey6783 said:
To ivory or not to ivory.Is it worth the time and money.I was wanting one as I hear so much about them.But I was told theres no real difference except for just to add more ivory to your cue.

I don't use 'em anymore. They're a little heavier than synthetics, and for that reason (ime), create extra cb squirt.
 
If I was a Rich Man....

lacey6783 said:
To ivory or not to ivory.Is it worth the time and money.I was wanting one as I hear so much about them.But I was told theres no real difference except for just to add more ivory to your cue.

If I had the Extra Green, i would like to Try a Set of Irory Ferruls. therer has to be something to Irory, as if there was not. All the Synthetics would not compair their Products to Ivory..... :o
 
lacey6783 said:
To ivory or not to ivory.Is it worth the time and money.I was wanting one as I hear so much about them.But I was told theres no real difference except for just to add more ivory to your cue.

I've had shafts with and without ivory ferrules. Like how they hit, but its not that big of a difference. The one thing I really like is they stay clean. My current cue I have one shaft with ivory and one with linen based melamine, both shafts hit good. There is a difference, but that difference may be because they are slightly different in dia and taper more than the ferrule type.

Just my .02
 
Bruce S. de Lis said:
All the Synthetics would not compair their Products to Ivory..... :o

Exactly, Bruce. For many, many years, I play exclusively with ivory ferrules. And I still occassionally will try the newest product, but nothing compares. Feel? You could blindfold me and I'll tell you which cue has ivory ferrules, (all else being equal) (At least I like to think I could :p ).

Ivory is the standard by which ALL else is measured, and for good reason. ALL of the synthetics are simply trying to copy the hit of ivory, without the expense. That's like saying a Kia drives like a BMW.

As for durability, ivory will last as long, if not longer, then it's synthetic counterparts. It does require different care, ie, a pad between the tip, NO hitting if not at room temp (esp cold). Ivory will crack form abuse, not use.

All in all, I highly recommend ivory ferrules. But if you like the hit of predators, meucci, mali, lucasi, fury and the like, don't bother ;)
 
I like the Phenolic Ferrules that are being used now.

You dont hafta worry about them cracking if your using your cue to break with.

I know one guy who has a cue shop and the ferrules he uses are i believe the Ivorine-III types, and he tells people if the ferrule ever cracks he will replace them for free.
 
billfishhead said:
ivory rocks,,,,,,,,,,great hit,,,,,,,,,,,got it on all my Szamboti shafs

Ivory has it's own hit, sound, feel, looks and of coarse nothing shines like ivory however it is far from the best ferrule material. Other than a M/P plastic like Meucci used to use and many imports still use it is the most prone to crack. It is a little heavier than some other ferrules causing more cue ball squirt. Years ago it was a populer ferrule material (although not the best) but that was before plastics where invented. Now a days the reason many cuemakers use ivory for ferrules is for tradition and of coarse the extra value you can get ouy of the cue. As I said earlier, Ivory has it's own feel which you may be accustomed to and like just like scotch whiskey. Scotch whiskey has an aquired taste meaning few like it at first but if you drink it enough you aquire a taste for it and no longer like any other whiskies. Why would you want to aquire a taste for an expensive, infearior product? I, just like many other cue makers, could use ivory ferrules as the amount of ivory that is used doesn't cost that much but I don't want to use an infearior material in the cues I build. When someone asks for ivory ferrules I explain to them the same as I have said here and if they still want them then I put them on and charge accordingly.
Dick
 
rhncue said:
Ivory has it's own hit, sound, feel, looks and of coarse nothing shines like ivory however it is far from the best ferrule material. Other than a M/P plastic like Meucci used to use and many imports still use it is the most prone to crack. It is a little heavier than some other ferrules causing more cue ball squirt. Years ago it was a populer ferrule material (although not the best) but that was before plastics where invented. Now a days the reason many cuemakers use ivory for ferrules is for tradition and of coarse the extra value you can get ouy of the cue. As I said earlier, Ivory has it's own feel which you may be accustomed to and like just like scotch whiskey. Scotch whiskey has an aquired taste meaning few like it at first but if you drink it enough you aquire a taste for it and no longer like any other whiskies. Why would you want to aquire a taste for an expensive, infearior product? I, just like many other cue makers, could use ivory ferrules as the amount of ivory that is used doesn't cost that much but I don't want to use an infearior material in the cues I build. When someone asks for ivory ferrules I explain to them the same as I have said here and if they still want them then I put them on and charge accordingly.
Dick

This is the first time I have heard ivory called inferior. I'd be curious to hear from other makers if they feel the same.

Regards,
Koop
 
Koop said:
This is the first time I have heard ivory called inferior. I'd be curious to hear from other makers if they feel the same.
Regards,
Koop

Ditto that, Koop. I have never heard a cuemaker even hint that ivory is not the best material, let alone call it inferior.

Also, who is "rhncue"? Do you have a web site or other place where we can see you work? I'm not trying to disparage you or start a flame war, for you might make a jam-up cue. But for a cuemaker that we've never heard of to undermine the opinion and material choices of the world's greatest cuemakers doesn't carry much weight with me....
 
VonRhett said:
Ditto that, Koop. I have never heard a cuemaker even hint that ivory is not the best material, let alone call it inferior.

Also, who is "rhncue"? Do you have a web site or other place where we can see you work? I'm not trying to disparage you or start a flame war, for you might make a jam-up cue. But for a cuemaker that we've never heard of to undermine the opinion and material choices of the world's greatest cuemakers doesn't carry much weight with me....

No disparaging here either, just weird to hear someone say ivory is inferior to synthetics.

I believe rhncue is Dickie Neighbors. I think he and Sherm used to build cues together but I could be wrong.

Koop
 
If you really care a lot about deflection and cue ball squirt and those kind of things, you probably will have a hard time adjusting to ivory.
I myself love the hit of an ivory ferrule. I like to feel my cue staying on the ball and I like the feeling of firmness and solidness of the ivory ferrule.
I do not like soft ferrules myself. I went crazy trying to shot with a 314.
It is all a matter of what you are used to. But if you really like a low deflection shaft, then my suggestion would be not to even bother spending your money on an ivory ferrule.
 
nipponbilliards said:
If you really care a lot about deflection and cue ball squirt and those kind of things, you probably will have a hard time adjusting to ivory.
I myself love the hit of an ivory ferrule. I like to feel my cue staying on the ball and I like the feeling of firmness and solidness of the ivory ferrule.
I do not like soft ferrules myself. I went crazy trying to shot with a 314.
It is all a matter of what you are used to. But if you really like a low deflection shaft, then my suggestion would be not to even bother spending your money on an ivory ferrule.

Interesting, thanks for the info.

Regards,
Koop
 
rhn,,,,,,,,,,,are you fast larry ? he is the only person i have ever heard of that prefers meucci ferrules over ivory. btw ivory is pretty tough, and not nearly as prone to cracking as people believe
 
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