Got lost in thought

[randyg]

Figured that this thread belongs in this forum.

Starting this Sep. 1st, I begin to re-build my pool game. All three aspects were examined. After 55 years of habits, this is not going to be easy.

My stroke work is coming along just fine.
My Three Pre-Shot Routines were scrutinized.
I think my brain is in the right place, so is my heart.

That leads me to this post.
I teach at least a dozen aiming systems that in their own right are very good to great. I had to chose which one was me. My head was always full of shot making. Caused way too much thinking at the table!

I went back to Hal Houle's CTE because it is the easiest system for my brain and body. Not right for all players but certainly fits my mold. Dug out all my old notes from Hal and CTE came right back like a lost puppy.

Played for the first time this week and I like it. Won all my matches and never once thought about aiming. What a pleasure.

Just wanted to share my journey with anyone who would understand.

PBIA Master Instructor
Randy Goettlicher

 

[One Pocket John]

WOW!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Your post has got to be the most words you have ever typed in this forum.

It's nice to know you are human and take the time to evaluate your own game.

Keep on strok'in RG.

Thanks again.

John

 

[randyg]

WOW!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Your post has got to be the most words you have ever typed in this forum.

It's nice to know you are human and take the time to evaluate your own game.

Keep on strok'in RG.

Thanks again.

John

Yup John.
Two different me's.
One the Instructor the other the player.

randyg

 

[Neil]

Figured that this thread belongs in this forum.

Starting this Sep. 1st, I begin to re-build my pool game. All three aspects were examined. After 55 years of habits, this is not going to be easy.

My stroke work is coming along just fine.
My Three Pre-Shot Routines were scrutinized.
I think my brain is in the right place, so is my heart.

That leads me to this post.
I teach at least a dozen aiming systems that in their own right are very good to great. I had to chose which one was me. My head was always full of shot making. Caused way too much thinking at the table!

I went back to Hal Houle's CTE because it is the easiest system for my brain and body. Not right for all players but certainly fits my mold. Dug out all my old notes from Hal and CTE came right back like a lost puppy.

Played for the first time this week and I like it. Won all my matches and never once thought about aiming. What a pleasure.

Just wanted to share my journey with anyone who would understand.

PBIA Master Instructor
Randy Goettlicher

Randy, I think the problem you presented here is a common problem with students. (and instructors in particular) We teach students to pay attention to detail on areas they need to work on, and to make them second nature so they don't have to think about them, just do them.

Yet, what I think often happens, is that we tend to focus too much on the ingraining of the new method, and never really do the last part. The last part being "letting go" and letting the training take over. I think we just expect that to happen, but it often doesn't because we trained ourselves to actually think about what we are doing.

I think we also need to start stressing in teaching that once we are satisfied with the results of the "new" method, that we then have to stop thinking about it and actually allow it to just happen. We mention it, but don't really get into just how important that is. We have to see the entire shot picture- the stroke, the aim, the positional speed. Not be putting most of our focus in just one area that we previously had trouble with.

We have to learn to play on auto, and only play mechanically when the shot calls for extra diligence, and in practice when we are correcting a problem.

Good topic you brought up.

 

[bbb]

randy
in medicine there is a saying
a doctor who treats himself has a fool for a patient.......:grin:
maybe you should have scott lee help you when you are the player rather than the instructor
jmho
icbw

 

[bbb]

Randy, I think the problem you presented here is a common problem with students. (and instructors in particular) We teach students to pay attention to detail on areas they need to work on, and to make them second nature so they don't have to think about them, just do them.

Yet, what I think often happens, is that we tend to focus too much on the ingraining of the new method, and never really do the last part. The last part being "letting go" and letting the training take over. I think we just expect that to happen, but it often doesn't because we trained ourselves to actually think about what we are doing.

I think we also need to start stressing in teaching that once we are satisfied with the results of the "new" method, that we then have to stop thinking about it and actually allow it to just happen. We mention it, but don't really get into just how important that is. We have to see the entire shot picture- the stroke, the aim, the positional speed. Not be putting most of our focus in just one area that we previously had trouble with.

We have to learn to play on auto, and only play mechanically when the shot calls for extra diligence, and in practice when we are correcting a problem.

Good topic you brought up.

neil
i think you have brought up a great point which maybe should have its own thread
when i took lessons from scott lee
he did tell me in practice to do the things he taught me
including talking to my self
for example
one one thousand/ two one thousand for training my eye pattern for example
but when playing just play
at some point all the training has to be so ingrained that when you are down on the shot you let practice and "muscle memory" take over
scott if i was wrong in your advice please correct me
i want to thank you for helping me with my game

 

[BilliardsAbout]

It is hard to teach students with many years of ingrained habits, even harder to instruct yourself. Good job, sir.

 

[Ratta]

Yup John.
Two different me's.
One the Instructor the other the player.

randyg

:thumbup:
I HEAR YOU! .......very loud

have a smooth stroke Pops- and just make the balls
See
Think
Do-

(that s it..."hides")

 

[Bank it]

I hear there's a pool school for 3 days that can tighten you right up for a small fee.

 

[Buzzard II]

I really can't imagine your stroke could be any better. I guess this means that Blackie is a pretty good student.