Hard hit question....

jed1894

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Just recently started playing with a Viking F99 that has a Le Pro tip (nickel) and I've noticed that the hit seems to be kinda hard. It almost looks like the cue ball jumps a little when I make medium hit. Before the Viking I was playing with a 15 year old Meucci with an Elk Master tip and the hit seemed smoother (it may be in mind). I know one is soft and the other is hard, but is it that drastic? The Meucci felt smoother. Is it the stick, shaft, joint or tip that causes the hard/soft hit affect. The stick is new ..... so I want to be sure before I go messing with the tip.

By the way, I usually play soft. I very rarely hit the ball hard.

thanks,

jed
 
jed1894 said:
Just recently started playing with a Viking F99 that has a Le Pro tip (nickel) and I've noticed that the hit seems to be kinda hard. It almost looks like the cue ball jumps a little when I make medium hit. Before the Viking I was playing with a 15 year old Meucci with an Elk Master tip and the hit seemed smoother (it may be in mind). I know one is soft and the other is hard, but is it that drastic? The Meucci felt smoother. Is it the stick, shaft, joint or tip that causes the hard/soft hit affect. The stick is new ..... so I want to be sure before I go messing with the tip.

By the way, I usually play soft. I very rarely hit the ball hard.

thanks,

jed

I would try a softer tip first. Are the shaft tapers and joint the same?
Purdman :cool:
 
The joints are both wood, or so it appears. I'm not sure about the tapers....also, isn't it true that Meuccis are 12.75 and Vikings are 13mm?
 
The whole of cue construction makes a difference. The joint material, joint type, ferrule material, consistancy in the cue tips, shaft size and cue length all make the difference. Thickness of the tip also matters. The last cue i bought the person that sold it to me had the tip shaped down to only 2mm left on the side, so the hit was much harder.
 
jed1894 said:
Just recently started playing with a Viking F99 that has a Le Pro tip (nickel) and I've noticed that the hit seems to be kinda hard. It almost looks like the cue ball jumps a little when I make medium hit. Before the Viking I was playing with a 15 year old Meucci with an Elk Master tip and the hit seemed smoother (it may be in mind). I know one is soft and the other is hard, but is it that drastic? The Meucci felt smoother. Is it the stick, shaft, joint or tip that causes the hard/soft hit affect. The stick is new ..... so I want to be sure before I go messing with the tip.

By the way, I usually play soft. I very rarely hit the ball hard.

thanks,

jed


everything starts with the tip/ferrule. it is the thing that contacts the cb. you might also be changing your stroke. i don't know the taper of the new cue, but the meucci has a 14-15" pro taper, probably longer than the new cue, and is why the meucci feels smoother.
 
Try balancing your back hand out better so there is just a hair of forward balance, and really concentrate on finding the sweet spot or stroke for that cue. A harder hitting cue can be kind of bouncy, but getting the pendilum balance set right, and spin stroke can smooth them out usually. also try to concentrate on loosening the stroke up a hair, and limit the impact on contact from the tip hitting the cue. you may try kind of push stroking it till you start getting the feel of it.

The softer hit IMO is easier to develop a good stroke with, but the harder will do things I can't do with the softer hitting cue. The downfall to the harder is it's possible that it may be harder to control. A bigger dia ferrule & tip helps me.
the opposite I have found for the softer hit. I work on several cues for friends, such as meucci, and the ones that I know of that have success with them, have had them for years, and they have small dia shafts which help loosen the english up some. I use pretty extreme english, alot more then I would like, and went through My phase with them years ago before switching, and I actually used snooker shafts on mine that were made By meucci as a snooker shaft from what I was told back then. they were longer then the standard shafts also. even the joint was a smaller diameter.

You could try a softer tip if worse comes to worse. there are softer ferrule materials also, but would try to exaust every effort before changing the ferrule on a new viking. They are supposed to be good from what I've heard, probably just a drastic change from your meucci, and you need to develop the correct stroke for it. good luck
 
Thanks for all the advice. I'm sure it's just the new stick playing differently than the Meucci. The bottom line is that I play just as well (or bad some nights) with the Viking, but the hit is harder.

Another thing I noticed that may be causing the hard hit feeling is the difference in the grip/butt: The Viking has linen wrap that is NOT covered with polyurethane, therefore, it is slippery. The Meucci, as you all know, has a coat of poly that makes it fill like a wrapless stick. Maybe this change has caused me to grip the stick differently without noticing.

JED
 
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