Help identify this Retro Merry Widow

[RingKing]

Found this in the collection cant remember how where I got it or what it is. Any help is appreciated. 5/16x14 pin

The ringwork is supper smooth and the cream color looks like it could be ivory.

 

[garczar]

Found this in the collection cant remember how where I got it or what it is. Any help is appreciated. 5/16x14 pin

The ringwork is supper smooth and the cream color looks like it could be ivory.View attachment 626749View attachment 626750View attachment 626751View attachment 626743View attachment 626745View attachment 626746View attachment 626747

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cool cue. ferrule is iv but rings don't look like it to me.

 

[RingKing]

cool cue. ferrule is iv but rings don't look like it to me.

Here is a pic with bumper off could the ring be made from pool balls?

 

[garczar]

Here is a pic with bumper off could the ring be made from pool balls? View attachment 626756View attachment 626758

possible. does it have gain lines like the ferrule? pic is kinda fuzzy.

 

[RingKing]

possible. does it have gain lines like the ferrule? pic is kinda fuzzy.

This is the best I can do lines go through colored part

They are very faint

 

[Sealegs50]

No idea who made it. But I like it.

 

[garczar]

This is the best I can do lines go through colored partView attachment 626768
They are very faint

doesn't look like iv to me.

 

[RingKing]

Just found an issue. Part of the wrap right in the center is loose for about 1 cm.

I love the wrap should I take the whole thing off and reapply or it there a trick to fixing loose part?

 

[garczar]

Just found an issue. Part of the wrap right in the center is loose for about 1 cm.

I love the wrap should I take the whole thing off and reapply or it there a trick to fixing loose part?

re-wrap in order most likely.

 

[RingKing]

Any idea on the butt cap material might be un-dyed same as rings

 

[garczar]

Any idea on the butt cap material might be un-dyed same as ringsView attachment 626773

delrin maybe.

 

[pt109]

Ivorine?

 

[RingKing]

Could it be a simple or early Verl Horn Cue? Did he do simple?

 

[RingKing]

Still trying to identify... only reason I say Horn is the based off this photo from a 10 year old azb post.

This Horns under bumper construction is i

dentical down to masking tape around the bumper.

 

[garczar]

Still trying to identify... only reason I say Horn is the based off this photo from a 10 year old azb post.

This Horns under bumper construction is iView attachment 626832dentical down to masking tape around the bumper.

seen lot of horns and nothing like this. i live in okla. and have seen a LOT of his cues. not impossible but i don't believe so. we'll see i guess.

 

[PDX]

While I don’t think it is a Dale Patten, my old Patten had that large linen too. I dig the orange.

 

[RingKing]

Not a lot of photos out there of Patten cues. And the few you find are pretty fancy.

Guess if you start making cues from an old box of szamboti blanks you take your time with each cue hence there are not many Pattens that come up.

I can't find my 3rd blue book, does anyone else remember reading about a maker who used billiard balls in their early cues?

 

[PDX]

Patten used a 5/16x18 pin.

Under the buMper looks like my old Schrader.

 

[RingKing]

Patten used a 5/16x18 pin.

Under the buMper looks like my old Schrader.

Schrader there is another maker with very few photos of his work floating around the internet. I need to find my blue books, not that will help but it might.

 

[RingKing]

I'm liking this Schrager idea. Do we know if he is still around?

Cue has a Martin vibe without the BEM