My buddy got himself in this mess yesterday. He had one idea, I had a different one. Note that the table we were playing on had tight pockets, so tons of english and/or speed is more than likely going to end up in a miss. Both the 5 ball and cue ball are frozen to the rail, but this table is cut well, so hitting the cue straight down the rail to make the 5 is very possible. What would be the "easiest" way to get out from here?
How would you get out from here?
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My buddy got himself in this mess yesterday. He had one idea, I had a different one. Note that the table we were playing on had tight pockets, so tons of english and/or speed is more than likely going to end up in a miss. Both the 5 ball and cue ball are frozen to the rail, but this table is cut well, so hitting the cue straight down the rail to make the 5 is very possible. What would be the "easiest" way to get out from here?
an experienced, veteran player might be able to pocket the '5' Ball, draw back and actually get the cue ball out off the rail.
either way, draw back to about where the cue ball is now, pocket the '6' Ball with a half tip of high right/inside english and come up table for the '7' Ball in the corner. i'd then draw the cue ball back across the table, in behind the '9' Ball for position on the '8'. from there the last two balls should be easy.
DCP
either way, draw back to about where the cue ball is now, pocket the '6' Ball with a half tip of high right/inside english and come up table for the '7' Ball in the corner. i'd then draw the cue ball back across the table, in behind the '9' Ball for position on the '8'. from there the last two balls should be easy.
DCP
I'd probably play it with low-right, aiming out from the rail just a bit, and trying to curve back into the ball. Just put a good stroke on it and take whatever amount of draw you get. If you can pull the shot off, it should get your cueball of the rail a little bit also.
Low right was what was used and the ball rattled right in and out of the pocket. Needless to say, I ended up winning this rack.
I was thinking the best bet would be to either stop or draw a little as the pockets would not accept balls with that much english and speed which keeps you at the table. After that, make the 6 behind the 7 and run the cue back up table leaving you two rail shape for the 8.
I was thinking the best bet would be to either stop or draw a little as the pockets would not accept balls with that much english and speed which keeps you at the table. After that, make the 6 behind the 7 and run the cue back up table leaving you two rail shape for the 8.
If the shooter is lefty, he has no chance of pocketing the five and drawing back. He'll be bridging off the rail which will inevitably elevate his cue which will cause the cue-ball to jump a little. Any bit of a jump and that cue-ball will no longer be hugging the rail.
With that said, you simply cannot hit this ball hard. Even for a right-handed player, there is a huge risk. I mean, I'm sure it can be done. It's not absolutely impossible to make this shot firmly but you'll miss it more often than not this way.
If you want to get out, you play the shot softly and take the difficult cut on the 6. The nice thing about the long cut-shot is that the position on the 7 should be automatic. This isn't an easy rack. Even with ball-in-hand on the 5, it's challenging since you're constantly going up and down table. To win, you have to evaluate each shot responsibly and opt for safeties when appropriate.
With that said, you simply cannot hit this ball hard. Even for a right-handed player, there is a huge risk. I mean, I'm sure it can be done. It's not absolutely impossible to make this shot firmly but you'll miss it more often than not this way.
If you want to get out, you play the shot softly and take the difficult cut on the 6. The nice thing about the long cut-shot is that the position on the 7 should be automatic. This isn't an easy rack. Even with ball-in-hand on the 5, it's challenging since you're constantly going up and down table. To win, you have to evaluate each shot responsibly and opt for safeties when appropriate.
Hit it hard with bottom right english to draw straight back to where the cueball started. The cueball will deflect off the rail to miss the point of the side, and draw straight up the rail, even if Bob Jewitt thinks it's impossible. 
Trying to shoot it slow without english is still very difficult, probably harder, and leaves you very tough, so I wouldn't do that. You could catch the point of the side and foul, I've seen Earl do that shooting easy without the cueball even frozen to the rail. Of course I didn't call it frozen, so he wouldn't give me the foul. He hit the ball on the left side after catching the point and didn't hit another rail. Who knew he could hit it so badly?
unknownpro
Trying to shoot it slow without english is still very difficult, probably harder, and leaves you very tough, so I wouldn't do that. You could catch the point of the side and foul, I've seen Earl do that shooting easy without the cueball even frozen to the rail. Of course I didn't call it frozen, so he wouldn't give me the foul. He hit the ball on the left side after catching the point and didn't hit another rail. Who knew he could hit it so badly?
unknownpro