How would you play this 9ball shot?
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JABSolstice
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Thank you for saying that.
another shot you could play if you did not want to go around the table or play only safe as david in fl suggested
bank the 6 in the side odds are if you miss (try to miss long if you miss) it will leave a tough shot and tough position to get back to the 7
if you make it you are sitting there for the 7...
bank the 6 in the side odds are if you miss (try to miss long if you miss) it will leave a tough shot and tough position to get back to the 7
if you make it you are sitting there for the 7...
Your lines are a bit off. The 1st 2 look good but you then want the CB to track towards the middle diamond on the long rail past the side. You'd then be shooting the 7 in the same pocket as the 6. This will also allow for easier, more natural position on the 8. Danger is getting too straight on the 7.
This would be executed by hitting a naturally rolling ball with no, or maybe just a smidge of left. Need to judge the path off the 6 and maybe adjust it some by altering vertical tip position. Not easy but not really that difficult once you get a feel for it.
Bank the 6 softly onto the short rail towards the 7 and the cueball with a little stun/draw and right hand side ideally off the other short rail behind the 9.
Oikawa
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Depending on the exact angle I have, I'd either play the same safe as Double-Dave, or follow instead of draw and shoot it a bit thicker, achieving the same thing (distance with no direct pot and possibly getting CB behind 9) with a more natural shot. Hard to judge the exact angle and feel of which is better from the image, but one of those two styles. Either way, the #1 priority would be to not leave the 6 too short leaving it pocketable.
i am not playing a no spin shot which if i understand your reply you are
i am using running english
and by coming in to the other side of the 7 than you my rebound off the short rail gives a larger margin for a reasonable angle on the 7
you cue ball if hits the middle diamond past the side would track towards the 1st diamond on the short rail if hit alittle too hard you might have a steep angle on the 7
getting to the 8 from the 6 ball side of the 7 should not be that difficult
jmho
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There are several possibilities here and I think it would come down to how I feel when I'm standing over the shot and how the table is playing. In addition to the other suggestions, there's a very doable rail-first carom off the 6 shot on the 9 ball (if it's not frozen), where the 6 banks softly off of the side rail and lightly hits the 7 and sits there while the cb remains up table--- that is, if you don't win the game by making the 9.
It's still doable if the 9 is frozen but with less room for error.
It's still doable if the 9 is frozen but with less room for error.
david in post #5 was thinking like you fran
( a thumbs up for each of you....)Rather than turn the cue ball loose on the reverse cut 6, (with a shitload of left) hoping it comes around where you need it, how about cross side and lock the cue ball back against the 7 so he can't hit the 6. Safety. If you make the 6, great. If not, he's locked. Speed is crucial here. Don't want the 6 coming back towards center table if you miss.
JABSolstice
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This is what I advocated for.
My friend went with the running left to go around the table. To be fair, he came up a bit high for the cut on the 7, but did end up getting out.
See post #6
When playing a safety or a two-way shot, you have to prioritize the speed of either the cb or ob, which is why this shot is tougher than it looks, because with this shot, you need the correct speed and position for both balls. You don't want the ob to wind up in a beneficial spot for your opponent if you miss the bank, and at the same time, you don't want to wind up straight in on the 7 if you make the bank --- and it seems the cb is headed towards the cushion.another shot you could play if you did not want to go around the table or play only safe as david in fl suggested
bank the 6 in the side odds are if you miss (try to miss long if you miss) it will leave a tough shot and tough position to get back to the 7
if you make it you are sitting there for the 7...
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So it's doable, but you will have to decide which ball takes priority. I would have to give priority to position on the 7, because winding up straight-in on the 7 while making the bank would be a disaster, and you would have done nothing to help yourself by shooting that bank.
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thanks for the analysis fran
Pool Hand Luke
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Posts #2 and 5 were my first thoughts as well, but Fran's idea of the carom to the 9 ball is most interesting and something I never noticed til she mentioned it. The more I looked at it, the more I could see someone like SVB or Chris Melling pulling this off.
As for myself, not likely.
As for myself, not likely.
This shot is easier than it looks. It's just a tempo shot with a nice soft roll with topspin. Soft grip.
I would too. Not a big fan of safety play. A necessary evil to compete at this level, but please don't misconstrue. A brilliantly executed safety is a shot all its own and I respect that as much as any other, however, I like to think of myself as a Shotmaker.
If there's a way to make the object ball and get half-assed shape out of it, I'll go for it in most cases, even low percentage shots.
Satisfaction derived from making one of these will sustain me until I get my next ass whoopin'.
That's why I drive a beater. I'll never learn. Lol.
I got into this game for the spectacle of occurrence. Not cautious play.
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