There I said it!, screw fast cloth! I have nothing against Simonis, just fast cloth. Last week I went "outta town" and played in an old bowling alley that had 10 GCI's. Very clean room, but all the tables had the slower Mali type cloth on them. I was gonna leave, but said what the hell, and played some great 14.1. I think having to slug the ball a bit got me into deadpop quicker. The cloth was'nt new, but in good shape. Bring back the slower cloth, and the stroke to play well on it!.....G