I Need Help Identifying an 80's Gold-Letter Joss Model & Dating a Scruggs Sneaky Pete
Hello all,
I'm looking for some more details on two cues that I own and really love; the first is an early-to-mid 80's gold-letter Joss, and the second is a venerable Tim Scruggs sneaky pete.
First up, here are a couple pics of the Joss. If anyone knows the model number, and timeline of when Joss made this cue, please respond with that information:
The last photo above shows a Joss Model 24 (top), and the unidentified model (bottom), which I'm thinking may be from the late 80's, but I'm not certain. The model 24 was from the early to mid 80's, but I'm hoping someone knows the model number and approximate date in which the cue in the bottom of the picture, was made? If I were to email Joss, they would say they could make me a cue like whatever vintage Joss I send them a picture of, but they won't elaborate on any information about their previously made cues. Trust me, I've already tried this!
Now, on to the Scruggs. I would like to know what year Tim Scruggs first started making Sneaky Pete models? Here's a pics showing an early stamping of the TS logo. Which years were these earliest logos--which had no ink within the letters, just a stamping into plain wood--made?
Now here's a shot that shows the original Scrugg's shaft collar:
Am I correct in that the Scruggs shafts have wood incorporated into the base of the pilot, and that this is one of the identifying traits?
Is another identifying trait of Scruggs cues, the fact that the top of their brass pilots have a rolled edge, as seen in the above pic?
In closing, thanks for the help identifying model of the Joss, and the approximate date of its manufacture. (e.g. late 80's, 1990, etc.), and for filling me in on the Scruggs Sneaky Pete, with regard to when the first Scruggs SP's were made, and what timeline represents cues such as the one pictured, having the first or earliest "TS" logo stamping, with no ink or woodburning of the letters, but rather just an impression of the letters in plain wood?
Regards,
Glen (strum4u)
Hello all,
I'm looking for some more details on two cues that I own and really love; the first is an early-to-mid 80's gold-letter Joss, and the second is a venerable Tim Scruggs sneaky pete.
First up, here are a couple pics of the Joss. If anyone knows the model number, and timeline of when Joss made this cue, please respond with that information:
The last photo above shows a Joss Model 24 (top), and the unidentified model (bottom), which I'm thinking may be from the late 80's, but I'm not certain. The model 24 was from the early to mid 80's, but I'm hoping someone knows the model number and approximate date in which the cue in the bottom of the picture, was made? If I were to email Joss, they would say they could make me a cue like whatever vintage Joss I send them a picture of, but they won't elaborate on any information about their previously made cues. Trust me, I've already tried this!
Now, on to the Scruggs. I would like to know what year Tim Scruggs first started making Sneaky Pete models? Here's a pics showing an early stamping of the TS logo. Which years were these earliest logos--which had no ink within the letters, just a stamping into plain wood--made?
Now here's a shot that shows the original Scrugg's shaft collar:
Am I correct in that the Scruggs shafts have wood incorporated into the base of the pilot, and that this is one of the identifying traits?
Is another identifying trait of Scruggs cues, the fact that the top of their brass pilots have a rolled edge, as seen in the above pic?
In closing, thanks for the help identifying model of the Joss, and the approximate date of its manufacture. (e.g. late 80's, 1990, etc.), and for filling me in on the Scruggs Sneaky Pete, with regard to when the first Scruggs SP's were made, and what timeline represents cues such as the one pictured, having the first or earliest "TS" logo stamping, with no ink or woodburning of the letters, but rather just an impression of the letters in plain wood?
Regards,
Glen (strum4u)
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