ILC Cues by Lucky?

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Anyone heard of them?

Lately I've tried three of his cues. They play fantastically! I really like how it hits but its too expensive.

His cue starts at 4.5K USD which is way too high imo.

All his cue uses ivory ferrule. And I heard Rodney Morris plays his cue too.

Here is his site: http://www.luckyscue.com/

Not sure if his cue is worth getting. But honestly it plays superb. Anyone has seen or tried em?

Tim



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Nice looking cues, although his designs were lifted right out of Black Boar, especially this
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Prices are pretty high, but the designs are very clean.
 
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You're asking a bunch of Americans if we have tried out a custom cue by a maker in Japan?
I'd be surprised if someone has, but I'm sure the general consensus would be no.

I could see the consensus saying no, because $4500 USD is very expensive even if the cue was made in the United States, let alone being overseas.
 
C'mon folks, it's just a piece of wood used to hit balls in a game. $4K is idiotic. I don't believe that it hits any better than a cheap Players cue. You guys and your cues are something else. If it costs more that !k then it's fantastic. If it less than $100 it's junk. But Efren can mop all of you up with a Walmart $10 cue...
 
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He has certainly been privy to inside cue making info from the worlds most revered makers, you get that when they are trying to close the deal on a years worth of cues.
 
ArizonaPete said:
C'mon folks, it's just a piece of wood used to hit balls in a game. $4K is idiotic. I don't believe that it hits any better than a cheap Players cue. You guys and your cues are something else. If it costs more that !k then it's fantastic. If it less than $100 it's junk. But Efren can mop all of you up with a Walmart $10 cue...
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Efren shoots with a $1200 player.

And another thing, it isn't just a piece of wood, like Michelangelo's David isn't just a piece of marble. If you can't appreciate the art that builders put into their work then enjoy that Walmart stick, but don't criticize others who do.
 
DAVE_M said:
You're asking a bunch of Americans if we have tried out a custom cue by a maker in Japan?
I'd be surprised if someone has, but I'm sure the general consensus would be no.

I could see the consensus saying no, because $4500 USD is very expensive even if the cue was made in the United States, let alone being overseas.
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The overseas thing is a bit too general, Japan has overall a lot higher quality for products that any other country. Japan cues are not China factory cues, nor corner shop Philipino cue maker quality.

Germany has Arthur (my sig pic that has my old ivory joint/ferrule/ring cue from Arthur that has about a 1k price from him as a "plain cue") and Volmer, both super high quality and priced pretty high even compared to US makers.

I do find that for a non-world wide name those prices are pretty high. Designs are very Black Boar and Volmer like. That scalloped buttcap with silver/gold inlays just screams Black Boar.
 
Careyp74 said:
Efren shoots with a $1200 player.

And another thing, it isn't just a piece of wood, like Michelangelo's David isn't just a piece of marble. If you can't appreciate the art that builders put into their work then enjoy that Walmart stick, but don't criticize others who do.
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I think what Pete was trying to say, is that it's not gonna make you play better.... and yes, they are works of art, to be collected by those that enjoy it. But play better.... nope.

It's all subjective. Most good players can play with anything that is straight and has a decent tip... usually the lesser players looking for a "magic" wand that just does not exist. There is more artistry then engineering and technology in custom cues.

I love the art work of the cues....and if folks wanna buy them... very cool. And I think most folks that do, do not suddenly think they are gonna be better players..... just gonna have cooler equipment than the rest of us ;)

PS: I think these Lucky Cues are very nice.... plus, as a bonus, they are named after my dog :)
 
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hang-the-9 said:
The overseas thing is a bit too general, Japan has overall a lot higher quality for products that any other country. Japan cues are not China factory cues, nor corner shop Philipino cue maker quality.

Germany has Arthur (my sig pic that has my old ivory joint/ferrule/ring cue from Arthur that has about a 1k price from him as a "plain cue") and Volmer, both super high quality and priced pretty high even compared to US makers.

I do find that for a non-world wide name those prices are pretty high. Designs are very Black Boar and Volmer like. That scalloped buttcap with silver/gold inlays just screams Black Boar.
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I should have clarified in my post; I did not mean to convey any ideas about quality overseas, only availability. I know many people buy cues sight unseen, so it may not be an issue at all.
 
ArizonaPete said:
C'mon folks, it's just a piece of wood used to hit balls in a game. $4K is idiotic. I don't believe that it hits any better than a cheap Players cue. You guys and your cues are something else. If it costs more that !k then it's fantastic. If it less than $100 it's junk. But Efren can mop all of you up with a Walmart $10 cue...
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Do you drive the cheapest car? Have the cheapest watch? Live in the smallest house?
Do you own anything made of gold? Is your dining room table a folding plastic table?

I mean any car can get you from point A to point B, and any watch can tell you the time right? You only need a few rooms to live, any jewelry can be made of steel, and certainly you can sit and eat on a folding table.

I mean your logic can apply to anything in life yet I am sure that you don't live your life that way, so why try to equate this ridiculous ideology to a pool cue.
If it's your choice to play pool with the cheapest cue and you feel your game is the same then that's great, enjoy. But don't come in this thread and talk down to people just because you don't get it. In life we get to make choices and if this is yours then so be it, but don't talk down to everyone else. And above all else please don't reference the greatest pool player of all time to back up your choices.
 
ChicagoRJ said:
I think what Pete was trying to say, is that it's not gonna make you play better.... and yes, they are works of art, to be collected by those that enjoy it. But play better.... nope.

It's all subjective. Most good players can play with anything that is straight and has a decent tip... usually the lesser players looking for a "magic" wand that just does not exist. There is more artistry then engineering and technology in custom cues.

I love the art work of the cues....and if folks wanna buy them... very cool. And I think most folks that do, do not suddenly think they are gonna be better players..... just gonna have cooler equipment than the rest of us ;)

PS: I think these Lucky Cues are very nice.... plus, as a bonus, they are named after my dog :)
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Your thoughts and opinions about cues are "subjective"
I disagree.
 
I saw them in person at the last ICCS show. I did not get to play with them. A local collector Rik (Tikitavi) had a 20 times loop that he was looking at the inlays through. I asked him why he needed that powerful of a loop to look at them. He then showed me the inlay work through it and it was amazing. Lucky had very thin sharp pointed curved inlays with zero glue lines. They appeared to have been lazer cut in or something. I do not know how the inlays were put in that precise, but I was just as impressed as Rik was after he showed me.
 
ChicagoRJ said:
I think what Pete was trying to say, is that it's not gonna make you play better.... and yes, they are works of art, to be collected by those that enjoy it. But play better.... nope.

It's all subjective. Most good players can play with anything that is straight and has a decent tip... usually the lesser players looking for a "magic" wand that just does not exist. There is more artistry then engineering and technology in custom cues.

I love the art work of the cues....and if folks wanna buy them... very cool. And I think most folks that do, do not suddenly think they are gonna be better players..... just gonna have cooler equipment than the rest of us ;)

PS: I think these Lucky Cues are very nice.... plus, as a bonus, they are named after my dog :)
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I can easily tell the difference between McDermott's lucky/star lines of cues and their higher caliber ones. I have tried some custom cues that don't hit well, and others that hit great. Maybe it is subjective.

I think the OP sees nice looking cues, that he might want to own because of how they look, but is trying to get an opinion first on how they hit. The overall value goes down if there is no utilitarian value to it.

I don't think the OP expects to play better because of how much he is spending on a cue. I also don't think because one guy can play great with a broom handle, the rest of us should do the same.
 
ArizonaPete said:
C'mon folks, it's just a piece of wood used to hit balls in a game. $4K is idiotic. I don't believe that it hits any better than a cheap Players cue. You guys and your cues are something else. If it costs more that !k then it's fantastic. If it less than $100 it's junk. But Efren can mop all of you up with a Walmart $10 cue...
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At a certain point (maybe past 3-500 IMHO), cues are mostly for art, craftsmanship and collector value. A $5 Seiko watch tells time just like a $10,000 Rolex. Rolex is still in pretty good demand though.

Bently, even BMW, Infinity, etc.. do a good business with cars that don't get you to your destination any faster, and in some cases not in more comfort than a $15,000 used Camry can.

I can hang up my kids pictures on the wall just as easily as I can a $10 million dollar Picasso, yet there is a big market for pure art that is at the end of it all, useless. If you had 10 sq feet to pack items to live on during WWIII or a week long trip to the Amazon jungle, I am thinking the Mona Lisa would not be included. But it's guarded and taken care of as well as anything else on the planet, including children.
 
Careyp74 said:
I think the OP sees nice looking cues, that he might want to own because of how they look, but is trying to get an opinion first on how they hit. The overall value goes down if there is no utilitarian value to it.

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Because you can't ask how a cue hits by asking others how they like, it's purely subjective.

Price has little to do with how someone is gonna like the hit. Do you think that anyone on the planet could be blind folded and pick out all the custom cues, and pick out all the production cues? I don't...

There is little difference between a $100 production cue and a $1,000 custom cue in terms of playablity? funny, everyone acts like cues are some over engineered equipment but it has not changed much in it's basic form for a 100 years.

They all pretty much use the same type of joints, screws, glue, finish, etc..... there is NOT any engineering in a cue.... very few cuemakers can claim an engineering degree but everyone acts like one cue will play better than another cue.... it's kinda silly really.

Just play the game.... folks that play high level sports for big money, don't put this much time and energy into the equipment they play with,,, unless they are paid to ;)
 
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