Interesting construction technique

collets

iusedtoberich said:
Thanks for the clarification Blud.

Is the 2J collet system you have the Jacobs "rubber flex" collets? Are they like 5C collets where they only hold one size or are they expandable for a small range? I was going to get a set on eBay but decided to go with an adjust-tru chuck for now, as I only have one lathe, and that would offer me the most versatility for now.

I was also thinking about buying plastic or brass "blank" collets and machining them with an inside taper to match the outside taper of various parts of cues. This would mean you wouldn't need a separate collar between the cue and the chuck/collet to hold the cue. But since I'm only doing repair work now, every cue is different and that would mean I would have to make many collets. Do you think this method would work well on building cues, since they would all be the same size and taper? I'm talking about for holding operations near the end of the building process after the taper of the cue is cut, like installing the joint.

Thanks,

Nick


Nick, you can buy them from 1/16" to 1/8" or whatever. mine are hardinge brand. These are steel. This is what you want. i have I think around 20 differant sizes. Don't use all of them, but, I'm a tool junkie.

The adjus-a thru-chuck is fine.
Way back when, I built a single "mother" collet, {used a solid brown phonelic material}, that would take smaller ones inside of it. I placed the brown phonlic in the chuck, then bored a through hole, and made new collets to fit that ID, and bored those to fit differant sizes of cue parts. So the mother stayed in the jaws, [ it was always centered], and the smallers, one i would replace when going to a differant size cue part. It worked just fine. These smaller ones were "dead collets. They were tapered inside to fit the dia., and angle of the part.
I also did what your talkng about, machining seperate collets that were straight on the OD. just change them out when need be.This can be done with or without the mother collet.

I think delrin is best for your collets. You got plenty of time to make collets. make them when you need to, or if you, run out of re-pair work. There easy to make. Do your best to take good care of all cues and cue parts. Always use collets.


Brass, I only have one brass collet, it's used to slip up on the tennon of the back of a front, drilling and then boring and grinding threads.[ some guys use a tap for this, instead of grinding the threads perfectly].. No need to let the wood expand while working that area. Tapes or drilling, does just that, expand the wood and causes cracks in your tennon.The bronze collet keep it from expanding...

blud
 
blud said:
Jon,
your idea of grinding it yourself, without removing it is good, but an expensive way to do it..

However it's much cheaper to hire it done. The du-more grinder and the long tool is very expensive.

I have a du-more grinder for making mandrels, and centers. The grinder alone without diamond wheels, was about $1,300.00..........Wheels cost me another $400.00 or so.

Send it out, a good machine shop can do it in about 5 to 6 hours.....Keep on working at building cues...

blud
Blud, we have a 1/2 HP Dumore, but need some parts for it. And we also have a 1/4 HP Dumore, and plenty of wheels/stones etc. All picked up for under $900... for the whole lot. I'm gonna start threading with them probably. I'll make my (and somebody else's :D :p ) mandrels with them also. Dumore's run smoothhhhhhhhhh. Yeah, a long extension would be expensive, i've seen them for sale, but expensive. I've made some dead centers before, easy, just offset the compound to 30 degrees, then grind dead on.

Well, i'm thinking... if you only wanted to grind the front of the I.D. of the spindle (at the chuck, for however far back as you could reach). Just take off the chuck and that should give you around 2-4" of reach. And just use shorter collets... I might try it eventually.

Or, i could just stay with my bearing steady-rest w/nylon/delrin collets...

Or i could just steal Joey's Logan..

Thanks,

Jon
 
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