Is Derby City capping entries this year?

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I can sign up online for the banks and one pocket but the 9 ball is showing 'out of stock'. They say they are capping at 400 entries. Is this online only or does this truly mean they are turning away players? If so this is totally new and going to be a big bummer as I have played for years and was planning a trip.

 
Demetrius, I think I saw them post online that you could call? That was a few days ago and may have changed since. Worth a call anyways, I think.
 
Demetrius, I think I saw them post online that you could call? That was a few days ago and may have changed since. Worth a call anyways, I think.
Thank you. They are closed (5PM EST close time) but I will try them again first thing in the morning.
 
Says 'max 400' on their site.
Yes, but it wasn't clear if that was their cap online so they had room for those who drive in and pay onsite or if this was a hard limit.

In years past they were uncapped and most people paid on site. So if this is a true limit that is a huge change.
 
I can sign up online for the banks and one pocket but the 9 ball is showing 'out of stock'. They say they are capping at 400 entries. Is this online only or does this truly mean they are turning away players? If so this is totally new and going to be a big bummer as I have played for years and was planning a trip.

kinda late to the party aren't ya?
 
kinda late to the party aren't ya?
For many years they have allowed sign up at the door. I am trying to do what has worked for me many times in the past and running into issues that may ruin my pool trip. I have a hotel booked and was looking forward to the 9 ball, I'm bummed trying to gather more information to see my best move. And you decide to bust my chops? Why?
 
For many years they have allowed sign up at the door. I am trying to do what has worked for me many times in the past and running into issues that may ruin my pool trip. I have a hotel booked and was looking forward to the 9 ball, I'm bummed trying to gather more information to see my best move. And you decide to bust my chops? Why?
Looking at their Facebook posts the 9 ball is full.
 
Well, on the one hand, I say IAFT that they got a handle on the entries and cut them off at a manageable level.

OTOH, I do know that sometimes they cut off entries online and then charge you an extra (administrative) fee shortly before the tournament, so maybe that's what's going on.

Lou Figueroa
 
I just received an email back. They have 500 entries total in the 9 ball. Originally they had 30 on the waiting list. There have been cancellations every day and I am now 12th in line. I'm hopeful that I'll be able to get in. I am registered for the banks and one pocket so I'll probably go and cross my fingers.

Things change. The DCC has picked up. I believe that social media has exploded in pool over the last 5 years with more people having more access to witnessing these types of events. 10 years ago it might have felt to many that the DCC was a big time pro event and totally out of their world. Now it's a destination for many pool players of all levels and it doesn't feel so far removed. That's my working theory on why it's picked up.

Whatever the reasons are the new normal has been set. DCC is now going to be a race to get signed up. This year it wasn't too bad, but knowing that it fills in advance for the first time ever I expect it to follow suit of the US Open or Turning Stone which fill within days or even hours of registration opening. It's getting harder to get into the staple events. We're on notice.
 
I just received an email back. They have 500 entries total in the 9 ball. Originally they had 30 on the waiting list. There have been cancellations every day and I am now 12th in line. I'm hopeful that I'll be able to get in. I am registered for the banks and one pocket so I'll probably go and cross my fingers.

Things change. The DCC has picked up. I believe that social media has exploded in pool over the last 5 years with more people having more access to witnessing these types of events. 10 years ago it might have felt to many that the DCC was a big time pro event and totally out of their world. Now it's a destination for many pool players of all levels and it doesn't feel so far removed. That's my working theory on why it's picked up.

Whatever the reasons are the new normal has been set. DCC is now going to be a race to get signed up. This year it wasn't too bad, but knowing that it fills in advance for the first time ever I expect it to follow suit of the US Open or Turning Stone which fill within days or even hours of registration opening. It's getting harder to get into the staple events. We're on notice.
I like it. It's a good thing!
 
Yeah I remember the earlier years where the player numbers were not as high as they are now and the events finished on the days they advertise them to finish. Now they spill over a number of times. It is for sure one of the more popular events of the year. I will be there the 1st day and then then the last 2. Can't wait.
 
I just received an email back. They have 500 entries total in the 9 ball. Originally they had 30 on the waiting list. There have been cancellations every day and I am now 12th in line. I'm hopeful that I'll be able to get in. I am registered for the banks and one pocket so I'll probably go and cross my fingers.

Things change. The DCC has picked up. I believe that social media has exploded in pool over the last 5 years with more people having more access to witnessing these types of events. 10 years ago it might have felt to many that the DCC was a big time pro event and totally out of their world. Now it's a destination for many pool players of all levels and it doesn't feel so far removed. That's my working theory on why it's picked up.

Whatever the reasons are the new normal has been set. DCC is now going to be a race to get signed up. This year it wasn't too bad, but knowing that it fills in advance for the first time ever I expect it to follow suit of the US Open or Turning Stone which fill within days or even hours of registration opening. It's getting harder to get into the staple events. We're on notice.
Honest question here. If you go every year and you know you are going, why not get your entry in well before the deadline?
 
That's alot of people, you can almost bet there will be openings from no shows especially if your standing there ready to go, I'd go if I were you.
 
As much as i like DCC they need to ditch the 'buy back' deal. Makes scheduling matches/events a major pia.
either that or cap the entries. The buy back option is different and this is the only tournament that has it, but it is a major PIA.
 
Honest question here. If you go every year and you know you are going, why not get your entry in well before the deadline?
Hey rexus. I appreciate your care in phrasing this in a conversational way. Given the context many questions come across quite disdainfully, almost as if the questioner is thinking "How could you let this happen, I would never let this happen to me, I am smarter than everyone and get things done right so had I been in their circumstances I would certainly have avoided whatever they are facing, let me grace them with my wisdom and share how a sophisticated thinking player would handle the situation so that maybe their pathetic life will be one step closer to the glory that is being me".

Seriously. I regret posting here often. A lot of people make me sorry about humanity.

But you ask a fair point! I have thought about this since I posted this and can boil it down to a couple of things.

The biggest one is a lack of sense of urgency. There are things that are time sensitive and things that aren't. For example, if you need to pick up your dry cleaning and the place is open until 8PM, would it matter if you went at 4PM or at 7:30PM? Not really. Not as long as you got there before it was closed, right? So if they closed early one day at 6PM for some reasons and you showed up at 7PM and couldn't get your clothes, would anyone ask "Why didn't you get there earlier?!?" It's like, "Well, I thought they were open until 8PM."

I hear everyone thinking "Well DCC obviously isn't the same!" and they are correct. But my experience with DCC had conditioned me to believe that it was always going to be the way it always was: Long lines of people at the door on Thursday night signing up with no problem. No one has ever been turned away from DCC for a full field in my life and they have always welcomed all comers. So in my mind this was closer to a 'sign up when I can' type of thing.

The other has to do with flexibility. Sometimes plans change, in particular because I travel and split expenses and winnings with a road partner. If we booked every event, hotel, and flight as early as imaginable every event it would result in money lost due to cancellations. A typical routine for us is to identify tournaments that we want to go to, discuss what pieces have to be in place for those to work (i.e. let me make sure I can cover the kids that day, or confirm whether this guy wants to train with me that weekend or not, etc). We are often discussing a handful of tournaments at any time so we just touch base every couple of weeks and move along our pipeline. The last one was 3 weeks ago. We had gotten together to secure entries to other events and we did book the hotel for DCC as well as flights for other tournaments. I don't recall why we didn't sign up for DCC at that moment but I'm assuming he had something pending in his life that we had to firm up before spending the money and making the commitment.

So, in a theoretical world where our calendars exist only for pool, we have infinite money, never get sick, and are just full time tournament signer uppers, yes, we could just stand by and instantly book all travel for all events. In the real world, however, managing a tournament calendar is a chore that involves finding out about tournaments, going through a vetting and confirmation process, and then making all arrangements. When you have children and work and a lot going on and are working with another person in the same situation this plays out a bit differently. And, while this doesn't apply to DCC, many pool tournaments have weird curveballs with their eligibility or signup process that are easy to cause a stumble. I don't know many players who haven't occasionally made mistakes with managing their calendar be it not getting in to a certain event, not being able to get flights that work, not knowing they couldn't play due to their Fargo Rate, having to stay an hour away because the local hotels are booked, and many other little set backs.

I know that most people quit reading and most of the rest are like "Whatever man, play it that way, you snooze you lose, hahaha". That's fine. I'm good. The DCC has changed radically and now I know what to expect for the future. I also see this as a trend so that yes, I will have to commit earlier to tournaments than I have in the past. This will certainly mean that I won't attend every event I'd like to if they fill prior to me being able to make that commitment, but I know the rules to the game and I can play it just fine. My post wasn't whining. I was just trying to gather information to make the best next move. And it turns out that they were able to get me in to the 9 ball so it didn't even burn me this time.
 
either that or cap the entries. The buy back option is different and this is the only tournament that has it, but it is a major PIA.
agree. I don't know what % of players use a buy back. Probably not a huge # but it still makes scheduling a problem. Put a 250 cap w/bb or just go to 128man double-elimination in each event. How many in a field of 400 are there just to play aka 'dead money'? A lot.
 
It's funny. DCC might be the most successful, biggest field size tournament in pool history, and it runs better than 90% of tournaments in terms of start and finish times daily, match predictability, etc. For all the complaints they must be doing something right if there are lines out the door.

It reminds me of that Yogi Berra quote, "No one goes there anymore, it's too crowded".
 
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