Is there a reason...

[DawgAndy]

Is there some structural reason nobody makes reverse sneaky petes? Have the points and wrap area birds eye and the fore arm exotic wood. Since petes don't really fool anyone anyhow. I think it would look cool but I've never seen one.Another question :How hard is it to change joint collars on an old shaft to match a new cue?

DawgAndy

 

[Buddha Jones]

Reverse Petes have been done before, but I don't know if there is a reason why they are not common. I prefer light colored points into a dark forearm so the reverse pete would be the stylee I would get. With an ebony forearm you would def get the forward balance point that is key. It just may look odd because they are rarely done. But I like rarities!

 

[cueman]

I have two blanks glued up right now with birdseye in the handle full spliced into coco-bolo and ebony forearms. Would make an expensive sneaky pete. Priced ebony and birdseye lately. That is the main reason you don't see it more. The next would be it looks rather unsual. Wouldn't fit the masses tastes. But it might fit yours. The cues will be forward balanced more than many might want. Not sure how I am going to finish them. Inlays? Sleeve the back? Many options still left.
Chris
www.internationalcuemakers.com
www.cuesmith.com

 

[Jon]

I have two blanks glued up right now with birdseye in the handle full spliced into coco-bolo and ebony forearms. Would make an expensive sneaky pete. Priced ebony and birdseye lately. That is the main reason you don't see it more. The next would be it looks rather unsual. Wouldn't fit the masses tastes. But it might fit yours. The cues will be forward balanced more than many might want. Not sure how I am going to finish them. Inlays? Sleeve the back? Many options still left.
Chris
www.internationalcuemakers.com
www.cuesmith.com

Oh yes, sleeve the back with ebony/coco (each for their respective counterpart) and maybe some points in the sleeve, or some simple diamonds. That would look great...

Thanks,

Jon

 

[blud]

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Is there some structural reason nobody makes reverse sneaky petes? Have the points and wrap area birds eye and the fore arm exotic wood. Since petes don't really fool anyone anyhow. I think it would look cool but I've never seen one.Another question :How hard is it to change joint collars on an old shaft to match a new cue?

DawgAndy

Hi Andy,

Chris is correct, weight forward is to much. This is why I will not build my pete's as that.To over come the balance problem, you got to add more weight to the rear, and now you really have a heavy cue.

Shafts with rings hard to match!

I have many shafts come in, and request for new ones. Just finished a new Joss shaft. Old one had, maple/ebony stitches for ring work. The old shaft was warped real bad.

Easy to build the new shaft, with old rings!

I took a 5/16 X 14 pin, and ran the shaft up on it while in my lathe, made sure the shaft at the joint end ran true. Then just cut the old shaft off at the 3" mark from the joint end, then machined down the old stub shaft to 5/8" just up to the rings edge, making sure the end of the tenon matched the drill bits angle. I then bored a 5/8" hole in the new shaft, [ about .010 deeper than the tenon lenght], then glued them together. Cut the shaft to the proper length, and installed a new ferrule and tip. Ran it through the sander, and painted it. Perfect shaft. By doing this, I didn't have to install a new insert and build new rings. Another thing was, I didn't need the butt to make the shaft fit up, on it's edges. It automaticily centered it's self, because i didn't disturb the original insert, or ring set.

Machining rings off is easy!

Just make sure your on "center" with your shaft when you machine the rings off. Machine down to 5/8" or what ever the original size was or is. Install your new rings, glue up, and re-machine the dia., to be about .010 bigger than your butt size. Put the cue with the shaft in your lathe, and blend them together with 220 , then 600 or finer sand paper. That should do it. paint and play........
blud

 

[DawgAndy]

I have two blanks glued up right now with birdseye in the handle full spliced into coco-bolo and ebony forearms. Would make an expensive sneaky pete. Priced ebony and birdseye lately. That is the main reason you don't see it more. The next would be it looks rather unsual. Wouldn't fit the masses tastes. But it might fit yours. The cues will be forward balanced more than many might want. Not sure how I am going to finish them. Inlays? Sleeve the back? Many options still left.
Chris
www.internationalcuemakers.com
www.cuesmith.com

Chris could a reverse sneaky pete be made from a laminated butt stock?

 

[cueman]

Chris could a reverse sneaky pete be made from a laminated butt stock?

I would shy away from it because of gluing problems that might occur down the road.

 

[DawgAndy]

I would shy away from it because of gluing problems that might occur down the road.

I'm not sure I understand. I've seen traditional petes made this way, 3 high and 3 low points made with laminated maple into curly. Would this not present the same problem?

Andy

 

[cueman]

I'm not sure I understand. I've seen traditional petes made this way, 3 high and 3 low points made with laminated maple into curly. Would this not present the same problem?

Andy

I am not saying it can't be done, but it is not something I want to do. Haven't seen those cues 10 years down the line. I guess I want to know what I am doing will hold up and I have my reservations about gluing those. I was also thinking you were talking about the colored laminated diamond wood with acrylic impregnation for color, which I felt the acrylic would be more likely to reject the glue years down the line. I think valley made some like that and time will tell whether the glue bond breaks down or not.