Jumping with a Predator 314 shaft.

Hal

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I've heard people say on here that they can jump with ease using a 314 shaft. I can't even get the cue ball airborne. Several people tried it at the DCC with no luck as well. I know why the 314 doesn't jump well, but it's odd that some people are able to do it. Any thoughts on this? I'm talking about a full ball jump. Not just skipping over the edge of a ball.

Incidentally, I have a 314 shaft that's been "filled" and has a phenolic tip/ferrule on it. It jumps pretty easily.
 
Hal said:
I've heard people say on here that they can jump with ease using a 314 shaft. I can't even get the cue ball airborne. Several people tried it at the DCC with no luck as well. I know why the 314 doesn't jump well, but it's odd that some people are able to do it. Any thoughts on this? I'm talking about a full ball jump. Not just skipping over the edge of a ball.

Incidentally, I have a 314 shaft that's been "filled" and has a phenolic tip/ferrule on it. It jumps pretty easily.

I have an idea for those who want to get a 314 to really jump. Remove the tip, and fill the drilled out hole with lead. I'll leave the "how to" to those who can do this. Then install a phenolic tip on top and see if it doesn't jump. I imagine almost any shaft could be modified by drilling it out a bit and doing the same thing.

Any takers?

Flex
 
I never tried jumping a full ball (used jumpstick)...but I definitely noticed it was harder for me to clear partial balls.

Based on it's design, I don't understand how people can "jump with ease" with a 314...maybe they're shaft jumping or jump champions?

You shouldn't have mentioned your filled-shaft predator...sounds like you could've gotten some action jumping balls with it :D


Hal said:
I've heard people say on here that they can jump with ease using a 314 shaft. I can't even get the cue ball airborne. Several people tried it at the DCC with no luck as well. I know why the 314 doesn't jump well, but it's odd that some people are able to do it. Any thoughts on this? I'm talking about a full ball jump. Not just skipping over the edge of a ball.

Incidentally, I have a 314 shaft that's been "filled" and has a phenolic tip/ferrule on it. It jumps pretty easily.
 
Flex said:
I have an idea for those who want to get a 314 to really jump. Remove the tip, and fill the drilled out hole with lead. I'll leave the "how to" to those who can do this. Then install a phenolic tip on top and see if it doesn't jump. I imagine almost any shaft could be modified by drilling it out a bit and doing the same thing.

Any takers?

Flex
Flex,

I'd be curious to know the results of this experiment as well. I have always thought (and heard) that the shaft (or jump cue) needs to be as light as possible for maximum jumping capability. It seems that the lead would make the shaft heavier, and hinder the ability to make the cue ball leave the cloth.

I'm curious to hear others' thoughts on the subject.

Mike
 
I always thought the lighter the easier too. I figured it was the contact and snap to get out of the way quickly that caused the high jumping of jump cues. I would think the lead would trap the ball more often and make it tougher to get anything airborn. Hmmmm?:confused:
 
Mike Templeton said:
Flex,

I'd be curious to know the results of this experiment as well. I have always thought (and heard) that the shaft (or jump cue) needs to be as light as possible for maximum jumping capability. It seems that the lead would make the shaft heavier, and hinder the ability to make the cue ball leave the cloth.

I'm curious to hear others' thoughts on the subject.

Mike

I have a shaft that's drilled out with steel inserted for the first two inches.

It don't jump....

mike page
fargo
 
Donovan said:
I always thought the lighter the easier too. I figured it was the contact and snap to get out of the way quickly that caused the high jumping of jump cues. I would think the lead would trap the ball more often and make it tougher to get anything airborn. Hmmmm?:confused:

I think it would depend on the overall weight of the shaft with butt.

Having tinkered with making jump cues for quite a while, what I can tell you I've observed with the ones I use is that two of the most important things in getting a ball to jump are the overall weight of the cue, and the tip being used.

I have a shaft with a phenolic tip on it that one day I managed to get a cue ball to jump over an intervening ball that was a mere 5 mm away. Put a regular jump cue butt on it and I'd need 1 1/2 ball's distance at least to do that regularly. So, I set out to find out how light I could make a jump cue that would still meet the 40 inch minimum. I went to a hobby shop and found a 1 inch thick square piece of balsa wood. I cut the wood so the overall length of the cue with the hard rock maple shaft plus the balsa wood butt would be about 41 inches, and then whittled down the butt to make it reasonably cylindrical, and drilled out the butt and installed a 5/16 X 18 screw in bolt with epoxy, that I got at Home Depot.

The balsa weighs next to nothing.

That cue jumps just great, although it's mostly good for quite short jumps, no more than 18 inches or so. And the cue ball doesn't easily get away and bounce off the table. Very good for lots of close up jumping.

Enterprising minds can come up with ways to make such a cue similar to the Stinger jump cues, and find it will jump even better.

Perhaps a lot of lead won't help, but some of it at the end of the shaft under the tip would probably make it easier for some shots.

Flex
 
mikepage said:
I have a shaft that's drilled out with steel inserted for the first two inches.

It don't jump....

mike page
fargo

How does it shoot though? Is it good for breaking?

Flex
 
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