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PLAYERS: What is your favorite LAYERED tip to shoot with and why?

SALESMEN: What are the top 3 LAYERED tips that you sell and why do your customers want them and what price is each selling for?

Thanks,
Zim
 
I like Hercules, but then again it's the first layered tip I've ever used. :D

So amazingly better than my old LePro!
 
Zim, I sell Blud's, Talisman, and Moori's. For myself, I soak em overnight in wood sealer, put em in Blud's tip jig, put em in a vise, squosh em real good, and bake em with the ol torch, not cook em, pop em out and put em on. They don't mushroom, and last forever. You gotta try it to believe it. If anybody doesn,t like it, don't try it. I don't want to hear any negative opinions if you ain't tried it.
Zim, that's what I do.
God Bless, Don P.
 
kokopuffs said:
Other than durability, how is the Hercules better than Le Pro.
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Maybe it's just my imagination, but I feel like I get much more english with the Hercules.

It's probably just my imagination. :o
 
I have used Tiger med, Hercules hard, Sumo hard, LePro, Triangle.

In Order best-> worst (IMO of course, it is my email...)
Sumo- Not too hard, good feel, holds chalk well if tip-pikd.
Suprisingly cheap
Tiger- Good feel, wore out too quickly.
Hercules- Like a rock! Couldn't get it to hold chalk if I didn't scuff after1hr or so.
Lepro- Nice cheap tip. Mushrooms and gets eaten up by scuffer.
Triangle- On the house cue. Should come free w/ tip install charge...

This link has many tip manufacturer's propaganda, er, I mean they sell tips here:
www.poolndarts.com

-pigu
 
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Don P- Not bashing Bluds tips here, but...why should you have to go thru so much before installing his tips? Or is this just something that you do extra?

I've heard good things about the Moori, but too expensive IMO. I've also heard good things about Sniper by Tiger and also Talisman.

I'm looking to stock and install layered tips (cheaper one and the Moori) and also LePro's and Triangle's.

Thanks,
Zim
 
Zim, I get Moori tips for $10 each if I purchase 10 at a time. Put em on for $35 including tip. They are not imitation either. I do MY tips that way, no one else's, unless asked. They don't mushroom and they last forever. I think I said that before. If you would like, I will do one for you for $15 and send it to you. If you are not happy, I will refund you your cash. Ask your friend Blud about "Purdman". I do what I say and say what I do. He is about 1/4 the way to Chicago now. If you would like, I can give you his cell phone # in a private message.
God Bless, Don P.
 
I just switched from lepro's to moori med/soft and it is tremendous, what a difference, it took me a while to change since I was used to lepro. Moori holds chalk great, nice spin and no miscues, I love it. durability I don't know yet, but that isnt a concern to me as long as it plays well
 
I have played with LePro's since I've been playing pool in 96', and I have had one Moori tip and loved it! I want to get more for my current cues, but will wait until I get my cue lathe.

Zim
 
I started out using Triangle, they held their shape fairley well. Since then, i have switched to Talisman med. I have just started having problems with the tip de-laminating, so a change is on the way. I have been talking to Blud about his tips and i am going to give them a try.

Kent Mc.
 
For me moori is still the best tip. Grips the cue ball well, and holds chalks very well.

As for the talisman, I've had good and bad experience with this tip. The only downside to talisman is that it delaminates.
 
Donald A. Purdy said:
Zim, I sell Blud's, Talisman, and Moori's. For myself, I soak em overnight in wood sealer, put em in Blud's tip jig, put em in a vise, squosh em real good, and bake em with the ol torch, not cook em, pop em out and put em on. They don't mushroom, and last forever. You gotta try it to believe it. If anybody doesn,t like it, don't try it. I don't want to hear any negative opinions if you ain't tried it.
Zim, that's what I do.
God Bless, Don P.
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Aloha Don,

Blud just sent me one of his jigs and I am about to try it out. I am very particular about the playability of the tip on my cue. I like a hard tip that holds a sharp edge, defining the side and the crown of the tip, after putting it on and playing with it for a short while. I don't like to have to "break it in" and "bang balls around" a lot before it becomes stable. I use a lot of English and feel I get better feedback and consistency with a hard tip. Your comments about soaking your tips in wood sealer intrigue me. If it's not flaring at all, I'm assuming it must be a fairly hard tip.
Is it a hard tip?
How often do you run a file on it or scuff it if you're playing 9-Ball?
What about miscues?

I would also like to know if you know of any type of burnishing tool or method to prevent tips from flaring?

Jayz
 
kokopuffs said:
FYI my Le Pro require no scuffing, they don't mushroom and miscues never never occur.
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You must use a lot of "center ball" in your play if you don't scuff it and never miscue...Just joking. I have also used LePro's for years and sometimes they turn out to be great...no flaring, consistent hit and good feedback. Having said that, I have also had LePro's put on and had to have another one put on right after that because of the "sponginess" I felt after hitting a few balls around. I realize there is a certain amount of inconsistency in all brands of tips, but with all the different brands available to the player today, consistency is important, especially if it might cost you money in a game.

I don't think there is any good player who wants to play with a new tip in a big match. Why do so many players compress a tip for consistent playability and to ensure it doesn't flare? With today's technology, you would think that some manufacturer would already be producing a consistent product with good playing characteristics ( holds chalk, doesn't flare, consistent throughout the life of the tip, etc.). Maybe someone is and I'm not aware of it.
 
I have recently started playing a moori quick after playing for quite a while with a Le-Pro.

I agree with what most people have said here, they don't mushroom and wear incredibly slowly, but thou shalt be vigilant with your tip-pik! :)

I would like to try the moori medium, I find that the hard tip has taken some of the 'feel' away from my cue. Or maybe I just need to get used to it a little more.
 
Please, my friends, don't use a tip pic on your layered tips. Makes em split. Takes away what holds em together. I use a 1 1/2 in. square of 220 grit or 400 in the palm of my hand. The palm has a natural curve to it. Just put the tip on it and give it a spin. BINGO. I think I picked up the tip hear on AZ. I do cue repair everyday. See em come apart all to often. jmho
God Bless, Don P.
 
Donald A. Purdy said:
Zim, I sell Blud's, Talisman, and Moori's. For myself, I soak em overnight in wood sealer, put em in Blud's tip jig, put em in a vise, squosh em real good, and bake em with the ol torch, not cook em, pop em out and put em on. They don't mushroom, and last forever. You gotta try it to believe it. If anybody doesn,t like it, don't try it. I don't want to hear any negative opinions if you ain't tried it.
Zim, that's what I do.
God Bless, Don P.
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Don P., what is the name of the wood sealer that you use?
 
I have been using Mooris for a few years and wouldn't change a thing. On one of my break cues I installed a hard Instroke and its still intact. So I guess they would be 1-2 IMHO.
Paul Fanelli, cuemaker, developed a tip tester for LePros after finding that some implode during the shaping process. He is in the process of finding a less expensive way to manufacture this tool. I have seen it used and its been 100% correct on all tips he has tried.

Joe
 
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