League payout question

frankncali

frankncali

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Curious as to what others felt they would like or thought

6 team BCA league .. played 10 weeks with each team paying $30 per week
$1800 taken in

What would your payouts be or what would you do with the cash.
BTW-- I know the BCA has to get a cut but I dont know what that might be..

2 places? Playoffs? no playoff? 3 places?

Take money for session ending open tourneys to all players from that session? Captains only tourney? tourney for anyone that didnt make cash?

Just curious and thanks
 
According to this in order for your league to be BCA sanctioned, it need to meet the minimum requirement of 6 teams and 30 players. Other than the $15 membership fee, per player I don't see any other monetary obligation from BCAPL.
http://www.playbca.com/BecomeaMember/LeagueMember.aspx

Everything else such as how the league is structured and payouts are up to the operator.
 
I know that NAPA league operators have to pay back something between 40-50% of fees back to players. This is included in prize money, trophies, travel benefits for nationals (if given) and bonus tournaments. So about $800-900 in prizes for that one session.

In the local APA league I shoot in, using the above math you provided, 1st place team would get $150 in prize money and another $100-150 of "value" for trophies. $0 to second place, $0 to third through sixth. The league operator would keep the rest. How..... generous.
 
ElLeon said:
I know that NAPA league operators have to pay back something between 40-50% of fees back to players. This is included in prize money, trophies, travel benefits for nationals (if given) and bonus tournaments. So about $800-900 in prizes for that one session.

In the local APA league I shoot in, using the above math you provided, 1st place team would get $150 in prize money and another $100-150 of "value" for trophies. $0 to second place, $0 to third through sixth. The league operator would keep the rest. How..... generous.
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I played APA for a while and had little issues with the payouts.. The APA structure is very different from other leagues I have read about. I heard terrible LO deals when was in Vegas for Nationals. Our LO had travel money for teams, room etc that made nationals and we got paid something back each session if you were in the top 2.
I knew that we were playing to advance and not playing for cash.

Now in the BCA league I feel its more of a cash league as you don't have to qualify for Nationals.
 
frankncali said:
I played APA for a while and had little issues with the payouts.. The APA structure is very different from other leagues I have read about. I heard terrible LO deals when was in Vegas for Nationals. Our LO had travel money for teams, room etc that made nationals and we got paid something back each session if you were in the top 2.
I knew that we were playing to advance and not playing for cash.

Now in the BCA league I feel its more of a cash league as you don't have to qualify for Nationals.
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Everyone in a BCAPL qualifies for Vegas. They just don't get paid to go.

randyg
 
ElLeon said:
In the local APA league I shoot in, using the above math you provided, 1st place team would get $150 in prize money and another $100-150 of "value" for trophies. $0 to second place, $0 to third through sixth. The league operator would keep the rest. How..... generous.
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You couldn't pay me enough to deal with pool players on a daily basis.

frankncali said:
I played APA for a while and had little issues with the payouts.. The APA structure is very different from other leagues I have read about. I heard terrible LO deals when was in Vegas for Nationals. Our LO had travel money for teams, room etc that made nationals and we got paid something back each session if you were in the top 2.
I knew that we were playing to advance and not playing for cash.

Now in the BCA league I feel its more of a cash league as you don't have to qualify for Nationals.
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Our APA doesn't pay out much, but I don't expect it to. I know that it provides lots of stats and history at the tip of my fingers. We have two BCA leagues here in town. One spreads the payments out so that everybody gets a little something. The other pays more top-heavy. I sub in both and have played in both. At the moment, I play on an APA 8/9, APA 8, APA masters and subbing on a BCA team for their local playoffs.
 
There are a bunch of different ways a league can pay out, but it's extremely important that every single tiny detail of the league's operation (weekly dues paid in, league expenses, sanction fees, league payouts, etc.) be in writing before league play begins to protect both the players and the league operator.

Some leagues are run democratically where each team gets a vote in how the league is run. Some leagues are owned by a person/company and they decide how the league is run. Either way, the rules should be in place because leagues are basically cash-based businesses, and nothing in this world will cause a person to screw over another person faster than cash.

I've run one of the largest leagues in Minnesota and Wisconsin since 1994. This year, we have 36 teams and over 250 players. The total income will be about $30,000. Every single penny is counted, tracked, and paid out at the end of the year in numerous ways (ball point money, round point money, team bonuses, individual player bonuses, year-end team tournament added money, league operator fee, etc.), all of which were decided at the pre-season meeting by league vote.

If your league doesn't provide any information at the beginning of the season as to how the league will be run and/or how the money is paid out, you are accepting a risk. Of course, I'm not saying league operators are unscrupulous. And, even if your league provides detailed information, the operator could still steal the money and run. But, with detailed info, you can make an informed decision as to whether or not you want to play in that particular league.
 
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