Little trick for Pro One

[BeiberLvr]

Here's another neat thing I picked up regarding the sweeps. I feel like I do have to add the disclaimer of this probably isn't the best way to sweep (as it involves more of a focus on the OB), and it could very well not be helpful to anyone.

In any case, let's go over a few things before we get started. If you've spent anytime learning the system, then you know there are two sweeps. A left sweep and a right sweep. These can also be defined as inside or outside, where an inside sweep is in the direction of the cut and outside is the opposite. So on a right sweep for a left cut, you could also say the sweep is outside.

The difference between the two is that an inside sweep will thin the cut angle, and an outside sweep will thicken the angle.

So when I have a shot that requires a thinner hit, my focus is then on the outside edge of the OB as I move down until my focus eventually shifts to CCB. On a shot requiring a thicker hit, I move towards the inside edge of the OB.

If you give it a try, it doesn't take long to realize that one will thicken the angle and one will thin the angle. The major benefit is that it makes you understand how subtle the sweeps actually are.


Edit: After a private discussion with another user, I realize my definition of inside vs. outside sweep may be flawed. I have since edited the part in bold to hopefully make more sense.

 

[mohrt]

Here's another neat thing I picked up regarding the sweeps. I feel like I do have to add the disclaimer of this probably isn't the best way to sweep (as it involves more of a focus on the OB), and it could very well not be helpful to anyone.

In any case, let's go over a few things before we get started. If you've spent anytime learning the system, then you know there are two sweeps. A left sweep and a right sweep. These can also be defined as inside or outside, where an inside sweep is in the direction of the cut and outside is the opposite. So on a right sweep for a left cut, you could also say the sweep is outside.

The difference between the two is that an inside sweep will thin the cut angle, and an outside sweep will thicken the angle.

So when I have a shot that requires a thinner hit, my focus is then on the outside edge of the OB as I move down until my focus eventually shifts to CCB. On a shot requiring a thicker hit, I move towards the inside edge of the OB.

If you give it a try, it doesn't take long to realize that one will thicken the angle and one will thin the angle. The major benefit is that it makes you understand how subtle the sweeps actually are.


Edit: After a private discussion with another user, I realize my definition of inside vs. outside sweep may be flawed. I have since edited the part in bold to hopefully make more sense.

I'm not sure what the focus on the OB is doing for you? I tend to stay focused on the CB as I move in to CCB from the initial eye position.

 

[BeiberLvr]

Because when you move to either edge of the OB you are thickening or thinning the cut angle. The movement is equal to a half tip pivot. It's just a different way of sweeping for folks that like to look at the OB.

Give it a try.

 

[Neil]

When learning CTE, which way to pivot can get confusing. Doing as you suggest above will quickly enable one to see which way they should pivot.

 

[Mirza]

Wait a sec...

If your vision center is going towards the outside edge of the OB, for a cut to the right, for example, outside edge of the OB is left, so your vision center is going to the left, towards the outside edge, while you're aligned for a cut to the right, thats an outside sweep for the shot? And if your vision center is going towards the inside, right edge of the OB, that would be an inside sweep for a cut to the right?

Did you mix something up here or..?

Here's another neat thing I picked up regarding the sweeps. I feel like I do have to add the disclaimer of this probably isn't the best way to sweep (as it involves more of a focus on the OB), and it could very well not be helpful to anyone.

In any case, let's go over a few things before we get started. If you've spent anytime learning the system, then you know there are two sweeps. A left sweep and a right sweep. These can also be defined as inside or outside, where an inside sweep is in the direction of the cut and outside is the opposite. So on a right sweep for a left cut, you could also say the sweep is outside.

The difference between the two is that an inside sweep will thin the cut angle, and an outside sweep will thicken the angle.

So when I have a shot that requires a thinner hit, my focus is then on the outside edge of the OB as I move down until my focus eventually shifts to CCB. On a shot requiring a thicker hit, I move towards the inside edge of the OB.

If you give it a try, it doesn't take long to realize that one will thicken the angle and one will thin the angle. The major benefit is that it makes you understand how subtle the sweeps actually are.


Edit: After a private discussion with another user, I realize my definition of inside vs. outside sweep may be flawed. I have since edited the part in bold to hopefully make more sense.

 

[BeiberLvr]

Wait a sec...

If your vision center is going towards the outside edge of the OB, for a cut to the right, for example, outside edge of the OB is left, so your vision center is going to the left, towards the outside edge, while you're aligned for a cut to the right, thats an outside sweep for the shot? And if your vision center is going towards the inside, right edge of the OB, that would be an inside sweep for a cut to the right?

Did you mix something up here or..?

Sorry Mirza,

Don't focus on my definitions of inside or outside sweeps (they're wrong).

Just focus on the inside edge (for thick) and outside edge (for thin) of the OB. You don't have to switch, but it's worth giving it a try. Like Neil already pointed out, it's an excellent way to better understanding the movement to CCB.

 

[JE54]

Not following exactly what your saying. Do you mean that your changing your visuals or ctel to the outside edge of ob or do the visuals stay the same as they should be ? And just move over farther so I see the outside edge of ob as well as the ctel ?

 

[BeiberLvr]

Not following exactly what your saying. Do you mean that your changing your visuals or ctel to the outside edge of ob or do the visuals stay the same as they should be ? And just move over farther so I see the outside edge of ob as well as the ctel ?

Nope. I still maintain the same visuals. The only difference is that instead sweeping towards CCB, I sweep towards the inside or outside edge of the OB. I'll still arrive at CCB, but what I'm looking at on the way down is different than what Stan teaches. Not saying that what I'm doing is any better, just that there's more than one way to skin a cat.

I guess I should have also made it clear that I am not aiming my tip at the edge of the OB once I'm down on the shot. Sure it might happen sometimes, but that's the exception not the rule.

 

[JE54]

I appreciate the quick reply. I'll go downstairs and give it a whirl.

 

[BeiberLvr]

No problem. Let me know how it goes.

 

[JE54]

I still don't get the sweeps right all the time. So I continually just go back to CTE & 90 -90.

 

[GaryB]

While waiting for DVD 2 I have become convinced that the best way for anyone wanting to learn this system is chart and then shoot the shots Stan shows on his first video--over & over & over ad infinitum. Then and only then will you begin to see the shots properly. I don't think that there are any short cuts.

 

[mohrt]

In my two year journey into CTE Pro One, if I could look back and give myself advice it would be this:

If you trust the system (execute exactly as described), whether you make or miss the shot, you have learned something. If you don't trust it and tweak things or question yourself during the shot, you don't learn anything.

The quicker you decide to trust it and make it work by trusting it, the faster you will propel yourself forward.

Start with the shots on DVD1 so there is no question what visual/sweep to use, and focus on execution to pocket the ball. Through this, you are continuously training your visual intelligence what to look for and understand to make the system work.