lucky's prices

[merylane]

merylane its hard to respond to your questions or statements. they don't really make a lot of sense. are you japanese?

the problem i have is i would like a black boar like the one pictured. but at 80k i would never see a return on investment in my childrens lifetime much less mine.

if there is no agreements with cue makers than why is someone like tony s forbidden to do repair work or make any cues for u.s. distribution?

oh iguess its hard to respond why gas is 4-5 times the price, blue fin tuna is 10 times the price, coffee, land, and even toyotas....... very hard to respond.

as far as return goes, you never know. everyone said lucky was crazy 20 yrs ago cause he was paying twice the market price.

you ever think maybee tony is doin just what he wants and is happy?
you could have talked to him before lucky did.

 

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oh iguess its hard to respond why gas is 4-5 times the price, blue fin tuna is 10 times the price, coffee, land, and even toyotas....... very hard to respond.

as far as return goes, you never know. everyone said lucky was crazy 20 yrs ago cause he was paying twice the market price.

you ever think maybee tony is doin just what he wants and is happy?
you could have talked to him before lucky did.

i have heard tony is happy with the relationship.
i didnt start collecting cues until 9 months ago so there is not much of a chance i could have beaten lucky to the punch

 

[merylane]

i have heard tony is happy with the relationship.
i didnt start collecting cues until 9 months ago so there is not much of a chance i could have beaten you to the punch lucky

thats pretty funny.

theres always the future, im sure you didnt buy coke stock at 5 cent a share also.

you could always offer tony a better relationship?

 

[merylane]

fly around the world and see what it would be worth??? guess you mean the cost of freight for the cues from the usa to japan - this certainly wouldn't account for his prices.

i'm sure barry didnt charge 80k for the golden szamboti - his fanciest cue to date with an ivory handle and gold inlays. i also wouldn't compare black boars with szamboti's. the work is entirely different.

if barry's had 250 inlays how much do you think he would charge?

and if your not talking about gus why couldnt you compare the two cuemakers? theyr both current? peers of one another?

 

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if barry's had 250 inlays how much do you think he would charge?

and if your not talking about gus why couldnt you compare the two cuemakers? theyr both current? peers of one another?

tony uses cnc to do very intricate work. i think his work is original and beautiful.

barry does not use cnc and has the luck/burden of being gus's son. he stays with the classic szamboti look.

personally i like both but would not compare them as apples to apples

 

[merylane]

tony uses cnc to do very intricate work. i think his work is original and beautiful.

barry does not use cnc and has the luck/burden of being gus's son. he stays with the classic szamboti look.

personally i like both but would not compare them as apples to apples

if its only the cnc reason, then i think you would have to seperate them in 2 groups then compare?

dick, thomas, ernie, all have sold for similar prices so why not tony's?

unfortunately not very many are doin cues the old way (without cnc)
and only in the pool world could it be considered a burden to follow in your fathers footsteps, few fathers could be so proud.

and also there is nothing in that bb that couldnt be pantographed.

 

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if its only the cnc reason, then i think you would have to seperate them in 2 groups then compare?

dick, thomas, ernie, all have sold for similar prices so why not tony's?

unfortunately not very many are doin cues the old way (without cnc)
and only in the pool world could it be considered a burden to follow in your fathers footsteps, few fathers could be so proud.

and also there is nothing in that bb that couldnt be pantographed.

please don't misunderstand. i love barry to death. i meant the pressure of being the son of one of the greats.

 

[Teddy Harris]

and also there is nothing in that bb that couldnt be pantographed.

Uhmmmmmm...I think there is plenty of inlays in Black Boar cues that could not be done on a pantograph. Tony uses a .005" cutter to cut some of his pockets. I think those cutters are too fragile to be used on a pantograph.

 

[cueman]

Uhmmmmmm...I think there is plenty of inlays in Black Boar cues that could not be done on a pantograph. Tony uses a .005" cutter to cut some of his pockets. I think those cutters are too fragile to be used on a pantograph.

That would depend on how large the pattern is. With a large enough reduction ratio you could cut as slow as needed to use any bit a CNC can. When are you going to come around anymore of the local touraments now that you are an official Georgia Hillbilly? Looking forward to seeing you and Steve. I might make Athens next weekend, but not sure yet.
Chris
www.hightowercues.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com

 

[Teddy Harris]

That would depend on how large the pattern is. With a large enough reduction ratio you could cut as slow as needed to use any bit a CNC can. When are you going to come around anymore of the local touraments now that you are an official Georgia Hillbilly? Looking forward to seeing you and Steve. I might make Athens next weekend, but not sure yet.
Chris
www.hightowercues.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com

I'll be in Athens @ Murphy's Brass Rail next weekend doing repairs for the Viking Tour event. I might even have a few cues. Hopefully, I'll see you there. Steve will be in Vegas for the BCA.

 

[Regulator1956]

so you would have no problem with tony s turning you down for repair work on one of his own cues?

Sure I would, but what about when he retires? Or God forbid, worse?

This isn't an arguement between small children. It's grown up business. We may be fans (read Fanactics) and some cue makers are in it for the love of the game, but many make it their livelihood and whatever decisions they make, you have to respect it.

I remember when Barry Sanders retired, people were saying "he doesn't have the right" and "It's not good for the game." Well, it's just a game and an adult makes business decisions for what's best for himself and his family. Screw the fanatics.

When you allow me to tell you how to run your life and I get to make the important decision regarding your business, then I'll support you in your desire to decide Lucky's prices and telling cue makers how to run their business.

I realize that's not really where you're at, but the flavor of these posts seem very strange to me. I shop in some stores and not in others. I don't tell people how to run their business.

 

[SplicedPoints]

Price levels in Japan is generally higher than most other parts of the world, save consumer electronics. He's charging a price that obviously many Japanese buyers feel is reasonable, or his business wouldn't have lasted for so long. His ads in the Japanese magazines are huge.