Meucci Originals No Dice Gamblers - ID & Date

[HitMaster]

I now have 2 Meucci Originals No Dice Gamblers and I need some input on when they were made and where they fit in the Originals line of no-dice gambler history. As you can see from the images mine are the ones made before the Originals with dice above and below the playing cards and at the joint. Mine have the rectangles above and below the cards, and at the joint, as opposed to the other version of the Originals no-dice gambler that has the rectangles forming a chain pattern above and below the cards and at the joint.

My research indicates there were at least 3 gamblers made in the Originals line. My question is what were the production years of each of these Originals gamblers? Which came first? Which is the original, original no-dice gambler? And when did Meucci begin making the Originals gambler with dice?

I know the ones with dice came after the ones without dice but that’s about it. In other words what were the production years for these 3 Meucci Originals gambler’s, and if possible what are the model numbers?

1. Originals no-dice gambler with rectangles pattern above & below the cards
2. Originals no-dice gambler with chain pattern above & below the cards
3. Originals gambler with dice above and below the cards

I can’t find anything on the internet that definitively answers these questions so any information you can provide is much appreciated!

The first 3 images are of one I bought several years ago and my second one is identical to it. Both are in spades. The 4th image is an example of an Originals no-dice gambler with the chain pattern above and below the cards and at the joint, as opposed to the rectangle pattern above and below the cards and at the joint.

 

[garczar]

Call BudgetBilliards its run by Bob's daughter. she knows the history well. or put this on the Meucci FB page. the old 'originals' logo was used up til about 1988ish. by 1990 the new script logo was used on all cues.

 

[Fatboy]

I might have a no dice gambler. I’m moving some cues around this week, it I come across it I’ll take a pic. I’ve had it ~15 years, it’s in 8.6/10 condition I’d guess/ the old stuff is interesting to me.

Thx
Fatboy

 

[Budget Billiard]

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The 2nd photo looks like it is an MO-10. The 1st one is likely a remake of a Mueller (same model number) made beginning in 2004 until about 10 years ago. Pull off the bumper and check if it has a grey weight tube.

 

[maha]

julia please post here more often. your posts are welcome. of course on the internet you will get argued with but that's just part of the thing.