Rappincapn
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Hi everyone, I fairly new to azbilliards, took me about an hour on my cell phone to figure out what button to hit to post a blog, so I hope I am posting this. I have read many posts on this site with a lot of expert advice on tables and other equipment, etc.
In fact, based on what I have read and other internet reviews, I upgraded my table from a pre 2k 8' Brunswick to an 8 1/2' Pro Peter Vitale Barritz.
Vitale is a great, solid table, beautiful hand carved wood on the legs and foot and head aprons and believe according to other reviews it is considered to be a top tier table.
The table is level, cloth is stretched very tight, and even had the coushion points slightly lowered by putting a strip of cloth on the outside part of the rails so they are now sitting at a height of 1 3/16" to help increase the table speed. The table plays on system from te oposite corners thru the 3rd diamond, which I would hate to loose.
I'm trying to pick up more speed to mimic that of the GC's at Steinway Billiards.
While my game is decent, and position and work the balls well on my table, which is fairly fast, it is still slower than the tables at Steinway, throwing my position off when playing a few tourneys at Steinway
I am not the best player by far, and eventually adjust, I love the speed of those tables.
I know the GC's are the best period, kind of ugly, but best tables I've ever played on, speed, ball reaction, clean pocket drop etc., besides don't have the room for one.
Anyway, sorry to bore you with all of that.
I know they currently have Simonis 860HR on their tables, later in the year for certain tournaments the switch to Andy Pro 920.
Love both of the cloths.
Anyway,NEED SOME HELPFULL ADVICE.
The table currently has an expesive wool cloth, (unknown brand , but no doubt as it has never pilled) it is not a worsted wool like Simonis, which will definitly help the speed, I am thinking of re-cushioning, and based on the posts I have read, I am sold on the German Artemis, but I don't know if Vitale uses a K66.
According to the posts, K66 are most common and only the GC's and Diamond use the K55's, just want to be sure before I order, which I see Meullers corrently has a great price of $185, with most sites selling them for $249.
My cushions are not dead, but the table is approx. 10-12 tears old and Vitale is out of business, so I can't contact them. I know you can measure them, but hard to tell with the cloth on and I would not prefer the down time to dismantle until I'm ready to re-cushion and recloth.
Does anybody have or know if the Vitale's used K66 or K55's?
Next question, I would like to tighten upor narrow the pockects while re-coushioning, I was thinking orlf using the 3/16" facings instead of the 1/8", which I believe is most common.
Right now I olny assume my favings are 1/8", as I have never reclothed this table. I believe I have the proper amount of pocket rattle, based on the speed of the ball entering the pocket on a none dead center entry.QUESTION, if I use the 3/16" facings, will the pockets be dead or have no rattle vs the 1/8". Does anybody know what the proper durameter rating should be for the facings?
Also, I have been thinking of extending the shelf of the corner pockets by 1/2", being as the current ball exposed in the pocket is approx 60%, I would like to bring it to about 40%, which I beleive is acceptible pro standards. I plan on using a hard Neopreme affixed to the pocket slate edges, which I believe should do the trick. Any thoughts on that.
Lastly, I am thinking of reclothing with the Andy Pro 920 worsted wool.
I can get a great deal, saving over $100 vs buying Simonis.
Anybody have any experience with the Andy Pro 920?
Likes? Dislikes?
Any advice or opinions out there would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you all in advance for your advice on these matters.
In fact, based on what I have read and other internet reviews, I upgraded my table from a pre 2k 8' Brunswick to an 8 1/2' Pro Peter Vitale Barritz.
Vitale is a great, solid table, beautiful hand carved wood on the legs and foot and head aprons and believe according to other reviews it is considered to be a top tier table.
The table is level, cloth is stretched very tight, and even had the coushion points slightly lowered by putting a strip of cloth on the outside part of the rails so they are now sitting at a height of 1 3/16" to help increase the table speed. The table plays on system from te oposite corners thru the 3rd diamond, which I would hate to loose.
I'm trying to pick up more speed to mimic that of the GC's at Steinway Billiards.
While my game is decent, and position and work the balls well on my table, which is fairly fast, it is still slower than the tables at Steinway, throwing my position off when playing a few tourneys at Steinway
I am not the best player by far, and eventually adjust, I love the speed of those tables.
I know the GC's are the best period, kind of ugly, but best tables I've ever played on, speed, ball reaction, clean pocket drop etc., besides don't have the room for one.
Anyway, sorry to bore you with all of that.
I know they currently have Simonis 860HR on their tables, later in the year for certain tournaments the switch to Andy Pro 920.
Love both of the cloths.
Anyway,NEED SOME HELPFULL ADVICE.
The table currently has an expesive wool cloth, (unknown brand , but no doubt as it has never pilled) it is not a worsted wool like Simonis, which will definitly help the speed, I am thinking of re-cushioning, and based on the posts I have read, I am sold on the German Artemis, but I don't know if Vitale uses a K66.
According to the posts, K66 are most common and only the GC's and Diamond use the K55's, just want to be sure before I order, which I see Meullers corrently has a great price of $185, with most sites selling them for $249.
My cushions are not dead, but the table is approx. 10-12 tears old and Vitale is out of business, so I can't contact them. I know you can measure them, but hard to tell with the cloth on and I would not prefer the down time to dismantle until I'm ready to re-cushion and recloth.
Does anybody have or know if the Vitale's used K66 or K55's?
Next question, I would like to tighten upor narrow the pockects while re-coushioning, I was thinking orlf using the 3/16" facings instead of the 1/8", which I believe is most common.
Right now I olny assume my favings are 1/8", as I have never reclothed this table. I believe I have the proper amount of pocket rattle, based on the speed of the ball entering the pocket on a none dead center entry.QUESTION, if I use the 3/16" facings, will the pockets be dead or have no rattle vs the 1/8". Does anybody know what the proper durameter rating should be for the facings?
Also, I have been thinking of extending the shelf of the corner pockets by 1/2", being as the current ball exposed in the pocket is approx 60%, I would like to bring it to about 40%, which I beleive is acceptible pro standards. I plan on using a hard Neopreme affixed to the pocket slate edges, which I believe should do the trick. Any thoughts on that.
Lastly, I am thinking of reclothing with the Andy Pro 920 worsted wool.
I can get a great deal, saving over $100 vs buying Simonis.
Anybody have any experience with the Andy Pro 920?
Likes? Dislikes?
Any advice or opinions out there would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you all in advance for your advice on these matters.