Newly Acquired Southwest by JF Era

monski

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Newly Acquired Southwest - Jerry Franklin Era

Just came in... 1990 SW with letter of Authenticity from Laurie Franklin (which will be kept safely). Bargained hard and had to pay up fast to get our price. Like this cue very much. Might consider another one in a few months (JF Era also). The 2 cues being unloaded at a bargain price in my For Sale post still available.
 

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2 Southwest shafts and an extra custom fitted Predator Shaft
 

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Will probably install a matching ring for the Predator shaft
 

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Nice SW, Monski. What kind of wood are the points and butt sleeve?
 
Hi LC3,

Letter of Authentication from Laurie Franklin reads as follows:

Cue was made in 1990, 20oz, six point cue, 2 shafts, North American Birdseye maple no epiece, inlaid with six points of South American Goncalo Alves border by a single black veneer. Irish linen wrap, base is Goncalo Alves, complimented with a Birdsye maple butt cap. The decorative joint rings are black linen phenolic and maple 6-slot, black/white/black design.
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I have 2 cues in the Wanted/For Sale Forum. 1 unused Russ Espiritu (but I changed the tip) and 1 unbranded Custom cue with 78 Ivory inlays. The MSRP if the Russ Espiritu alone is already $1015 (discounted). Selling to offset some costs that came with the SW purchase. Please check it out. You can get great returns as many of the pro's here say that these cues will sell well in Japan.

Selling them at a great bargain price ($900 for both cues). Will ship to Japan free. Thanks

email me if interested mon_ramos@yahoo.com
 
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monski said:
Please check it out. You can get great returns as many of the pro's here say that these cues will sell well in Japan.

Selling them at a great bargain price ($900 for both cues). Will ship to Japan free. Thanks

email me if interested mon_ramos@yahoo.com
I thought your SW had goncalo alves. SW seemed to use that wood a lot. It's one of my favorites.

Thanks for the offer, but I already have a couple cues in the works and am not in a position to buy any others. Besides, I've been homesick and might head back to the US soon.
 
One Question:

Why would you want to put a Predator shaft on a Southwest?

That is like putting a Toyota engine in a Ferrari! Putting a low-end shaft on a high-end cue is crazy. Predator shafts don't play well to me and I have a few of them laying around collecting dust.
 
Ruthless said:
One Question:

Why would you want to put a Predator shaft on a Southwest?

That is like putting a Toyota engine in a Ferrari! Putting a low-end shaft on a high-end cue is crazy. Predator shafts don't play well to me and I have a few of them laying around collecting dust.

The Mark IV Toyota Supra had a twin-turbo 3.0 engine that could put out +450hp at the rear wheels without breaking a sweat. A lightly modified Supra could smoke nearly anything on the road, and many cars more than 3 times it's price.

You might not like the way a Predator shaft plays, and it does't have the brand value of a SW, but there isn't anything sub-standard about them.
 
and so how do you rate the quality of the shaft anyway? (i'm just asking for inquiry's sake :) ok)
growth rings? stiffness? ferrule? price- un(availability)/snob factor?
 
Quality of the wood= growth rings, cut, and you can tell just about where the wood was grown by the grain. Then that helps determine the stiffness. Taper plays a big role also.

laminated or ply wood is not as solid as a single piece of wood(fact). You can glue it, press it, or any other means that you try to make it with won't make it a solid piece of wood. So that means the deflection will be different when the shaft is turned at another angle. What you want in cue construction is consistancy at every level. The whole idea of building 2 piece cues is to make it feel as if it where 1 piece of wood. Inlays of any kind serve no purpose except to sell a cue, that is where you're "snob factor" is.

Enjoy whatever you like and if you are happy with it, who cares what others think. :)
 
Quality of wood for one. And most of all the original shaft on a custom cue has more value than a replacement. Not to mention that the SW shaft is worth more than a pred.!
 
Ruthless said:
laminated or ply wood is not as solid as a single piece of wood(fact). You can glue it, press it, or any other means that you try to make it with won't make it a solid piece of wood. So that means the deflection will be different when the shaft is turned at another angle. What you want in cue construction is consistancy at every level.

Without turning this into a thread on shaft construction, I always thought that a radially laminated shaft (like a 314) would be more consistent than a single piece. A single piece of wood can have voids or sugar pockets in it (in the case of maple), where if you use a laminate you would only have one piece with the defect/irregularity and the other pieces would act to "cover" the defect.

Maybe I have never played with a perfect 1 piece shaft, but I find that I like the Predators more than the ones I have experienced.

Enjoy whatever you like and if you are happy with it, who cares what others think. :)

Words to live by. ;)
 
I am looking at resale value and originality. As for which plays better is up to the person. I have a similar SW with 2 original shafts and one red collarded SW shaft, and there is now way I would sell it near the price of the one this guy is selling. And I believe the shafts have alot to do with this.
 
predator talks about radial consistancy in their ads,a consistant radius in real english is a circle,any shaft has a consistant radius,as a sales person for the last 15 years i know a line when i see it,in sales taining they call this sell the sizzle,make up something that sounds good and keep talking about it.meucci started it with deflection,now predator continues the tradition.you should stop and think if you have to replace half your cue to get it to play right then you bought the wrong cue!
 
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