My impression is that flat-faced joints are a lot more common that piloted ones. What are the pros and cons of the two types? Is one more difficult to make than the other? Do the two have different hits, or does it depend on the joint material or other factors? Thanks.
Piloted v. Flat-Faced
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This old thread from RSB is very interesting.
http://groups.google.com/group/rec....tvc=2&q=texas+express+joint+#8df34c50775a9d06
http://groups.google.com/group/rec....tvc=2&q=texas+express+joint+#8df34c50775a9d06
a piloted joint is stronger at the joint. a flatface is stronger over a broader area (about a 15" span). i don't know how much of an affect this has on playability. btw,,,that jones/rempe "test" was flawed and has, over the years, taken on the specter of an urban legend. to begin with the specs should have(if they weren't) been of the same construction with only changes in specified areas in question,,,with each part changed one at a time and not a hodge podge mix of combinations,,,,,and built by ONE cuemaker.
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bruin70 said:
Can you go into more detail as to why you think the piloted joint is stronger than a flat face one?
By stronger do you mean that it will resist more side force pressure before breaking?
I have always prefered a flat face type of joint over the piloted type.
Not that I think I could really feel a difference I just like the way they feel
... or at least I think I do <grin>
Willee
bruin70 said:
Well .. there ya go.
Why should we bother to find things out for ourselves
when there are so many people around to think for us. <grin>
Personaly, I like to think things thru for myself.
That way not only do I know what is ... I know why it is.
Either type of joint breaks kinda easily when you snap it across your knee.
So ... I guess it should be defined as to what is meant by 'strong'.
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WilleeCue said:
seeing as how qmaking is not my business nor ever will be, i'll take the word of someone i trusted.
if he said he did tests, that's good enough for me.i don't believe "strong" meant as you suggest. claims can be misleading. you can stand on a "regular cue" like hercek stands on his spliced cue, AND THEY BOTH will withstand the pressure.....big deal.
Personal Preference!?
IMO, different strokes for different folks.....everyone has their personal preference
I think you will see alot of older custom cues using the piloted joint. I believe they were trying to make a solid connection at the joint between the two pieces of wood (whatever that may mean).
I personally have both types of joints on several different cues. Again, IMO these different joint types, joint materials and types of pins will all lead to a different feel in any given cue.
I like both
Fliedout said:
IMO, different strokes for different folks.....everyone has their personal preference
I think you will see alot of older custom cues using the piloted joint. I believe they were trying to make a solid connection at the joint between the two pieces of wood (whatever that may mean).
I personally have both types of joints on several different cues. Again, IMO these different joint types, joint materials and types of pins will all lead to a different feel in any given cue.
I like both