thanks mr8ball...i appreciate you offering up the knowledge you have...that is a great thing imo...too many people old to the game want people new to the game to think you got to lose money gambling to get better...that sounds like something a car salesman tells someone right before he BREAKS HIS FOOT OFF IN THEIR BEHIND! probably b/c they actually fell for that line when they were coming up haha...i see that line has worked w/ a lot of you guys.