Pot Success Rate
- Thread starter mbvl
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I suspect flukes are counted, but not sure about shots to nothing I think they do as well since they are still attempting a pot.
Other than that, it's fairly easy to figure out whether they are going for the pot or not.
Thank you for your insightful reply.
How's this for "counting":
If the ball on goes into the obviously intended pocket directly, that is a successful pot. Everything else is an unsuccessful pot attempt.
Flukes are not successful pots even if the ball on eventually goes into the intended pocket; if the cue ball goes in-off, that's Ok; if the cue ball winds up flying into the gallery, that's OK; if a ball which is not on gets potted also, that's OK.
A shot-to-nothing is an attempted pot. If it pots, your success rate goes up; if it doesn't pot, even if you freeze to the back of brown, your success rate goes down.
Pretty obvious really.
Mark
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Scoring for pot success rate
For "pot success rate" they probably have it programmed into their scoring system like they have with the scoreboard software at ballstream.com...
Typing in 0 records a miss while 00 records a safety shot and 000 records a full snooker. Successful pots have been scored with points so whatever is left over is either a miss, safety or a snooker.
Of course this method also gives a "safety success rate".
For "pot success rate" they probably have it programmed into their scoring system like they have with the scoreboard software at ballstream.com...
Typing in 0 records a miss while 00 records a safety shot and 000 records a full snooker. Successful pots have been scored with points so whatever is left over is either a miss, safety or a snooker.
Of course this method also gives a "safety success rate".
Thank you for trying to help, but what I really want to understand is what constitutes a pot attempt, a safety attempt, and what constitutes "success". I'm not trying to be difficult. I do understand snooker. I know about free ball, touching ball, and the miss rule. What I don't understand is success rates.
Is a fluke a successful pot? Is a shot to nothing a pot attempt, a safety attempt, or both? If one pots the ball on but then fouls (in some way), is that success, failure, or not counted as an attempt?
I'm just a dumb Yank three-cushion player who happens to like snooker, too. In 3C flukes count as success, fouls count as failure, and shots to nothing count as attempts. Every stroke counts as an attempt to score. It seems that in snooker every stroke should count as an attempt at something, but what counts as "success"?
Mark
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Performance statistics
The scores can only tell you who won or lost between 2 players whereas the percentages can tell you performance comparison over a group of players.
Another statistic that we built into our stats was "yield" which is an evaluation of colours scored. For example if blacks comprise the majority of the colours scored in a frame then the yield will be higher than when yellows are scored. Of course 'yield' should only be considered over a period of time as in some frames the colours can be out of play and the difference in player yield may only be evident in the lower ranks.
All of these percentages can be used to evaluate a player's chances of winning and in fact are used most often by snooker journalists and commentators.
As to how a fluke is scored is up to the scorer, and the experienced scorer appreciating that flukes do happen may try to avoid scoring them by actually recording a fluked safety/snooker as a miss. Fluked pots don't happen nearly as often.
The scores can only tell you who won or lost between 2 players whereas the percentages can tell you performance comparison over a group of players.
Another statistic that we built into our stats was "yield" which is an evaluation of colours scored. For example if blacks comprise the majority of the colours scored in a frame then the yield will be higher than when yellows are scored. Of course 'yield' should only be considered over a period of time as in some frames the colours can be out of play and the difference in player yield may only be evident in the lower ranks.
All of these percentages can be used to evaluate a player's chances of winning and in fact are used most often by snooker journalists and commentators.
As to how a fluke is scored is up to the scorer, and the experienced scorer appreciating that flukes do happen may try to avoid scoring them by actually recording a fluked safety/snooker as a miss. Fluked pots don't happen nearly as often.