predator weight bolts

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what are the head type and size on the predator weight bolts?

also, would it be a bad idea to unscrew the weight bolt from its current position in order to change the balance? for instance, currently the balance is at 19" from the butt, and i'm more comfortable with areound 17.5" to 18" from the butt. so i figure, if theres gap between the end of the bumper and the bolt, i should be able to unscrew the bolt some to move the balance further back. do you think this might cause it to be too loose to where it might generate a rattle? if so, is there any recomendation for cutioning to use? maybe plumbers tape or something? any thoughts apprietiated. thanks.
 
thank you for your reply, but that doesn't list the size hex wrench to use, nor does it answer the second question. i'm not looking to change the weight, just the balance point. but in doing so, i'm concerned about causeing the bolt itself to be loose and possibly generating a rattle.
 
hex wrench size

I believe it is a 6 mm hex wrench. Any normal set of metric hex wrenches would include one which will fit. As to loosening the bolt to move the balance point back, while I am not a cue maker, it is my opinion that it will very likely produce a sound when it it loosened. If not immediately, then within a few hours of play.
 
Joss's have used a number of different weight systems over the years. If it is a 3/8 x 16 set-screw then the wrench will be a 3/16. In regard to placement, a weight bolt must be locked into position or the threads in the wood will soon be destroyed from the slide-hammer affect. To lock into place there are about 4 ways this can be accomplished.

1. Have a head on bolt so that it locks below the bumper.
2. Screw in set-screw as far as there are threads so that it locks on the bottom of the threaded bored hole.
3. Screw in to the depth you want for balance and glue into place.
4. Take two or more set-screws and put them in butting tightly against each other so that they can not move at the depth that you want.

The set screws must be long enough so as not to strip out the threads in the wood as they can be rather fragile.

Dick
 
bolts and wrenches

rhncue said:
Joss's have used a number of different weight systems over the years. If it is a 3/8 x 16 set-screw then the wrench will be a 3/16. In regard to placement, a weight bolt must be locked into position or the threads in the wood will soon be destroyed from the slide-hammer affect. To lock into place there are about 4 ways this can be accomplished.

1. Have a head on bolt so that it locks below the bumper.
2. Screw in set-screw as far as there are threads so that it locks on the bottom of the threaded bored hole.
3. Screw in to the depth you want for balance and glue into place.
4. Take two or more set-screws and put them in butting tightly against each other so that they can not move at the depth that you want.

The set screws must be long enough so as not to strip out the threads in the wood as they can be rather fragile.
Dick
Good information, Dick! But I think the Predator/Lucasi weight bolts may need a different sized hex wrench than the Joss bolts. I just measured the wrench that I use on those bolts and it comes in right at 6 mm - a good bit bigger than 3/16".
 
BillPorter said:
Good information, Dick! But I think the Predator/Lucasi weight bolts may need a different sized hex wrench than the Joss bolts. I just measured the wrench that I use on those bolts and it comes in right at 6 mm - a good bit bigger than 3/16".

Oops! My bad. I read the question a couple of days ago and when I responded today, I trusted my memory, or lack of it, and thought he was talking about a Joss. Yes, being a Chinese cue it probably does use metric bolts and accompanying wrenches.

Dick
 
I guess I really have'nt put that much thought into It to know the size By heart :o . I have standard & metric t-handles, so I usually just find the 2 that look the closest in size, and use the one that fits tight ;) :D . One set has handles that are a different color then the other set, so easy to tell which is metric and standard. Usually one from each set will fit well enough to get the bolt loose, but one will have alittle slop, and the other one does'nt. Imports are normally metric though from what I see.

Greg
 
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