Pro-One melt down

J-Flo

J-Flo

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Crazy thing happen today. I practiced jump shots for about 4 hours with traditional jump shot aiming. I took a lunch break, came back to start running drills, and could not make a ball. My visual aiming left me. I picked up Pro 1 fairly easy cause I was doing some of the same things with my regular aiming. After concentrating on center ball hits for my jumps, I could not find that grove that I had created for Pro 1. I could not do my step in to shot routine. So I went to a basic spot shot with cue ball at 29 ob at 22. It took a couple of hours till I felt comfortable again. I felt like I had really screwed up. I know the system does work with jumps. but I hate jump shots, try not to shoot them but I won 2 new jumper on e bay and wanted to try them out and before I knew it 4 hours had past and I lost all sense of the Pro-1 system. I have to figure out how to incorporate Pro 1 in my jumps.:eek:
 
J-Flo said:
Crazy thing happen today. I practiced jump shots for about 4 hours with traditional jump shot aiming. I took a lunch break, came back to start running drills, and could not make a ball. My visual aiming left me. I picked up Pro 1 fairly easy cause I was doing some of the same things with my regular aiming. After concentrating on center ball hits for my jumps, I could not find that grove that I had created for Pro 1. I could not do my step in to shot routine. So I went to a basic spot shot with cue ball at 29 ob at 22. It took a couple of hours till I felt comfortable again. I felt like I had really screwed up. I know the system does work with jumps. but I hate jump shots, try not to shoot them but I won 2 new jumper on e bay and wanted to try them out and before I knew it 4 hours had past and I lost all sense of the Pro-1 system. I have to figure out how to incorporate Pro 1 in my jumps.:eek:
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I use CTE and aim the same way on jump shots.

Pretty interesting though how four hours of playing one way can mess you up so much. Not unexpected I think, kind of like playing one hole for several hours and using one type of stroke/strategy and then trying to go straight to 9 ball.
 
J-Flo said:
Crazy thing happen today. I practiced jump shots for about 4 hours with traditional jump shot aiming. I took a lunch break, came back to start running drills, and could not make a ball. My visual aiming left me. I picked up Pro 1 fairly easy cause I was doing some of the same things with my regular aiming. After concentrating on center ball hits for my jumps, I could not find that grove that I had created for Pro 1. I could not do my step in to shot routine. So I went to a basic spot shot with cue ball at 29 ob at 22. It took a couple of hours till I felt comfortable again. I felt like I had really screwed up. I know the system does work with jumps. but I hate jump shots, try not to shoot them but I won 2 new jumper on e bay and wanted to try them out and before I knew it 4 hours had past and I lost all sense of the Pro-1 system. I have to figure out how to incorporate Pro 1 in my jumps.:eek:
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It is no wonder that YOU had a meltdown. LOL I think most any instructor would agree that 5 to 15 minutes is plenty for working on any specific skill at one time.
Stan Shuffett
 
stan shuffett said:
It is no wonder that YOU had a meltdown. LOL I think most any instructor would agree that 5 to 15 minutes is plenty for working on any specific skill at one time.
Stan Shuffett
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Along those lines, I've always wondered about the reports that SVB practices breaking for 6 hours in a row (or pick some other high number you might have heard) once a week. How is that possibly a good thing to do? Maybe it's just building his stamina for long sets. Would he be even better at breaking if he practiced it for shorter intervals but more often? But, then, how could anyone argue with his results?:smile:

[Sorry for the diversion.]
 
Your probably correct

stan shuffett said:
It is no wonder that YOU had a meltdown. LOL I think most any instructor would agree that 5 to 15 minutes is plenty for working on any specific skill at one time.
Stan Shuffett
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I have never been able to master jump shots. I've always been able to jump for contract but not to pocket the ball. I made up my mind to find a cue that was comfortable, and get to work. I was working on close distance shots. I always was putting some type of spin on the ball causing it to go off track as soon as it his the table. I concentrated on center ball hits. So much so that when i started regular playing i could not see the cte line. I could only see center ball ghost ball type visuals.
But back on track now. It took a couple of hour, but I'm back. I thought i lost a months worth of work.
 
I agree Stan. We teach the 20/20 practice rules. I use them myself.

randyg
 
Just my .02©

randyg said:
I agree Stan. We teach the 20/20 practice rules. I use them myself.

randyg
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I don't understand this concept. If a person gets in the grove, in stroke, on point, dead stroke, what harm does it do as long as he isnt reinforcing bad form or habits. Isn't the time spent with good practice or play cementing the feel of being in stroke. I have heard several pros state that they practice for hours and hours a day.
My short term goal is to win my division at the state tourney. A problem in the past was conditioning. I just could not shoot any more. We had over 600 people in my division. Needless to say matches went from 8am till 1am. 20/20 practice won't do it!
No disrespect expressed, written our implied to two great men and instructors Randy G, and Stan Sheffert.


P.S. I just want to win!
 
20/20

20 minutes or @ 20 shots.

There is some sound human performance science behind this. I like to "practice/drill" for more than an hour, but break the drilling sessions up by changing my mental focus from practice to play (or a break) then back to practice. Sometimes I drill 2 or 3 hours a day, but never more than 20 minutes at a time. When I drill I am doing a lot of analysis and focus on outcomes (table and body). However, I have to admit that limiting myself to 20 shots is hard to do and I go by time most often.
 
AtLarge said:
Along those lines, I've always wondered about the reports that SVB practices breaking for 6 hours in a row (or pick some other high number you might have heard) once a week. How is that possibly a good thing to do? Maybe it's just building his stamina for long sets. Would he be even better at breaking if he practiced it for shorter intervals but more often? But, then, how could anyone argue with his results?:smile:

[Sorry for the diversion.]
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i've seen SVB do it first hand,
 
JMW said:
Is that 20 minutes practice and then 20 minutes play?

JMW
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Not quite.

FIRST 20: When you enter into an analytical practice routine (break it down and put it back together) its best to work in 15-20 minute segments. This keeps your mind from becoming mush.

SECOND 20: Try to only shoot 20 shots and then change to another drill. Too many of one thing also can beat up the brain.

Look up Dr. Michael Wolf.
The head doctor.


randyg
 
Fatboy said:
i've seen SVB do it first hand,
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Eric -- I wasn't doubting that SVB practices breaking in that fashion, just wondering whether that's really the best way to do it. But, as I noted, who's to argue with the results?
 
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