Question about woods in full splice cues/sneaky petes/merry widows

Retail1LO

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Is it possible to use the following woods in a sneaky pete as the handle or forearm of the cue? If a full splice cue isn't possible...what about a merry widow?:

Amboyna burl
Sapelle
Bloodwood
Osage orange
Goncalo alves
Olivewood
Snakewood
Rosewood
Curley Maple


I've found recently that my taste in cues has simplified tremedously...and that my favorite cues showcase wood and maybe some ringwork. I'd actually like to get 8 sneaky's done for my home table...but don't know how to go about commissioning someone to make them.
 
Retail1LO said:
Is it possible to use the following woods in a sneaky pete as the handle or forearm of the cue? If a full splice cue isn't possible...what about a merry widow?:

Amboyna burl
Sapelle
Bloodwood
Osage orange
Goncalo alves
Olivewood
Snakewood
Rosewood
Curley Maple


I've found recently that my taste in cues has simplified tremedously...and that my favorite cues showcase wood and maybe some ringwork. I'd actually like to get 8 sneaky's done for my home table...but don't know how to go about commissioning someone to make them.

First, would be to find a cuemaker who does their own full splices...that would be the first 'hurdle'. Next...the amboyna, snakewood, olivewood...maybe the osage orange.....would likely need to be cored to be used...not really suitable as a stable structural wood without coring. (Might be wrong on the osage orange).

The rosewood, maple, sapelle (which is a mahogany), bloodwood, and goncalo alves would be more suitable woods, without coring. I would venture to guess that the rosewood and goncalo alves would provide you with the best overall 'feel' and hit. I, personally, really like the way rosewood plays...and there are enough different varieties of it, that you should be able to find something within that family to make you happy. I know that Jerry Franklin reportedly favored goncalo alves as a playing wood for his cues....I, however, have had no experience with this wood, as far as playability goes.

While, a lot of people really dislike the way bacote looks...it is a fantastic playing wood!! I know it was not mentioned, but I thought I would throw it out there as a possible option. I am a rosewood fan...particularly Bois de Rose (Madagascar rosewood), but had recently acquired a bacote full splice cue, and cannot even believe just how well this wood actually plays! Terrific feedback, paired with BEM, provides a lively hit. Generally you will find that the fans of bacote tend to be those who have actually had the pleasure of playing with it...looks not withstanding. Definitely on my favs list. :D

On the easy to acquire side...I would recommend Keith Josey. he does his own finger-spliced full splices, and naturally weights his cues (no weight bolts). He can do a cue for you in Indian rosewood, ebony, bacote, cocobolo (a rosewood 'cousin'), and purpleheart. He does from very plain to a bit more fancy full splices, and his cues play very, very well...very solid players.

I would say that finding a cuemaker that does their own full splices may be your biggest challenge. I do know that both Murray Tucker and Josey Bautista do their own...but can be very difficult to acquire a cue from...mostly as it is more about the passion than the production for them...but you can always try.

Perhaps a thread asking cuemakers who do their own would help narrow the search. I, too, have gone to strictly full splice cues crafted by the maker as a critieria for my cues...with either a Radial or 3/8x11 SW-type pins. It's not an easy search. Best of luck!

Lisa
 
Woods

Lisa has definitely given great advice. REP to her! I agree with the bocote comments....I happen to have a bocote/curly maple zylr with buckhorn joint/ferrules/buttcap....although it isn't full splice and his cues hit great....i'm sure the bocote helps :)

Also, if you are looking for a cuemaker that does their own full splices, I am good friends with one who does full splices with veneers and 2 ivory-ferruled shafts starting at $750....I'd be glad to talk to anyone who is interested.
 
johnf_34 said:
Lisa has definitely given great advice. REP to her! I agree with the bocote comments....I happen to have a bocote/curly maple zylr with buckhorn joint/ferrules/buttcap....although it isn't full splice and his cues hit great....i'm sure the bocote helps :)

Also, if you are looking for a cuemaker that does their own full splices, I am good friends with one who does full splices with veneers and 2 ivory-ferruled shafts starting at $750....I'd be glad to talk to anyone who is interested.

That's a pretty great price for a full splice with veneers and two shafts! from the pics you posted previously...I think that was you :o ...they seem to be very nicely done. :)

Lisa
 
I have posted some finished and unfinished ones before....so you probably have seen them. They are great cues. He does great work....If you notice in my signature, I have one of his cues, S&S(Sumrall), and it is my player. Mine isn't a full splice, but is still a great cue.

He will also take a full splice and put inlays in it, put a leather wrap on it or whatever is wanted. I think it's awesome that he puts two ivory ferruled shafts with any cue over $650!!
 
Bill Webb used osage orange and I believe I've seen 1 or 2 Southwest pacifers that were Osage.

Andy
 
osage

Bill Webb told me that osage likes to crack, and its just a matter of time before it does. That is why he cored his.
 
If you go with rosewood, bacote, or ebony...particularly into a BEM nose, you can hardly go wrong..all are outstanding playing woods for a full splice cue.

Again, bear in mind that the shaft taper is equally important in how a cue is going to play...you can have the most awesome wood ever in the butt section, but if the shaft wood and taper are crap...well, I think you will get the idea.

Lisa
 
I posted a picture the other day of an unfinished Ebony nose/Bocote full splice with veneers from the Cuemaker I know. I bet that would be a great hitter when finished!
 
johnf_34 said:
I posted a picture the other day of an unfinished Ebony nose/Bocote full splice with veneers from the Cuemaker I know. I bet that would be a great hitter when finished!

Can you post a link to the pics?

Lisa
 
Here you go, let me know what you think!

Bocote/Ebony full splice with red/black veneers:
SumrallFullSpliceNew.jpg


Titlist tribute full splice:
SumrallFullSplice.jpg


Full splice w/o wrap on far left:
SumrallEbonyNew.jpg


Full splice w/wrap and ivory inlays(third from left):
SumrallEbony.jpg
 
johnf_34 said:
Here you go, let me know what you think!

Bocote/Ebony full splice with red/black veneers:
SumrallFullSpliceNew.jpg


Titlist tribute full splice:
SumrallFullSplice.jpg


Full splice w/o wrap on far left:
SumrallEbonyNew.jpg


Full splice w/wrap and ivory inlays(third from left):
SumrallEbony.jpg


I'm on the fence over the bacote/ebony....that is some hella dark bacote!

LOVE the Titlist tribute and the unwrapped w/Hoppe ring cues....and he seems to be doin' some really nice inlays...pretty nice looking cues overall.

Once I have fulfilled my next cue obligation, I may well have to consider one of these....the pricing certainly seems right! :)

Lisa
 
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