Radial taps
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As has been already posted, Atlas is where you buy Radial taps. Upon checking I noticed that they are out of the standard radial tap but the reason probably is because no one uses them any longer. They were the original radial tap and left the shaft a little loose. They then started making the undersize tap to correct this situation and that is what most now use. Atlas has those in stock.
Dick
I hope that no one at Atlas is considering the discontinuation of the std. sized Radial tap.
I use both (std. & undersized) on a regular basis. It depends on the mtrl. I'm tapping.
The undersize tap is preferred in wood. It's a little tight for the first couple of connections
but a little candle wax and before long it fits perfectly. The wood fibers will compress just slightly.
Had I started with the std. size tap in wood, the fit would soon be too loose, for my liking anyway.
I prefer the std. tap in phenolic. Phenolic threads will not compress.
Using the undersize tap in phenolic will result in the pin getting stuck by the 2nd or 3rd thread.
Phenolic has found it's place in many areas of cue construction.
It's use as an insert for the 'big' pins is IMO a true advancement.
It's much easier to cross-thread a pin going into wood than it is in phenolic.
Phenolic won't allow it. You're either in the groove or you're not.
I've seen plenty of cross-threaded/stripped threads in wood.
I can't recall an instance where this has happened in phenolic.
KJ
I use both (std. & undersized) on a regular basis. It depends on the mtrl. I'm tapping.
The undersize tap is preferred in wood. It's a little tight for the first couple of connections
but a little candle wax and before long it fits perfectly. The wood fibers will compress just slightly.
Had I started with the std. size tap in wood, the fit would soon be too loose, for my liking anyway.
I prefer the std. tap in phenolic. Phenolic threads will not compress.
Using the undersize tap in phenolic will result in the pin getting stuck by the 2nd or 3rd thread.
Phenolic has found it's place in many areas of cue construction.
It's use as an insert for the 'big' pins is IMO a true advancement.
It's much easier to cross-thread a pin going into wood than it is in phenolic.
Phenolic won't allow it. You're either in the groove or you're not.
I've seen plenty of cross-threaded/stripped threads in wood.
I can't recall an instance where this has happened in phenolic.
KJ
Right here in just a few words, the real skinny on Radial taps.
Great post.
Robin Snyder
Very informative and helpful. You, and the Rat, I believe, often have said that you use this material for more durable inserts. I normally use bocota as an insert for big pin joints. The first time that I read about the phenolic inserts, and two or three times since I tried to use the material without the desired effects that I was looking for. The finished job always left the connection way too tight for my liking. I tried boring the hole slightly larger but still was not happy with the result. I use the tighter fitting tap so now I know why I got such a different outcome than you fellows.
Thanks,
Dick
Great Info. I have found the same to be true with the 3/8-10 taps that I use. I always start out with the piloted undersized tap regardless of material, but sometimes with phenolic I have to chase the threads with the standard tap to get the fit just right. It also depends on the pin diameter as I have found they are not all the same.
Greg
If anyone is looking for the std size radial tap, I'm selling my regular and undersized taps. Shoot me a PM and we can discuss prisoner exchange.
