Reconditioning

lewdo26

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Dear cue experts,

This question has probably surfaced a million times on this forum already, but if so I missed it. My shaft, I recently found out, has a slight warp. I'm simply wondering whether the reconditioning process is something that I can do myself at home with good advice. Or is it the case that I should have it professionally done? And if I do, is it worth what I'll pay for or should I just purchase a new shaft?
By the way, my cue is a Adam DX-8 maple 13mm with a pro taper.

Thanks a bunch in advance.
 
a lot depends on how much warp you have...make sure the butt is not the problem...unfortunately, the folks who have the license on adam cues in the usa and the other group in canada sell a lot of seconds,, customers wind up with them and they warp, some sooner than others, IMO ,,,the 'seconds' should be scrapped or marked in some way that can't be removed....I have quit dealing with the distributors because of the warping problems..........jack
 
In my experience a warped shaft will almost always go back, even If you are able to straighten it. I have done it using a few methods, and seems as if they always go back to shape. when wood decides it wants to move, It can be pretty set in It's ways, and will do what It wants no matter what you do. you could hang the cue for a while, but dought It will stay straight for long. I would aggree to find out for sure what Is warped and causing the problem, and make sure It is not in the joint,or faces. Make sure Your threads are clean, and the faces of your joint does'nt have any kind of build-up on them, I have seen that cause problems. also on those models in paticular I would look closly at the forearm of the cue to make sure there is no problems there. Look for a warp or possibly even a slight crack starting under the steel joint. If It is your wood warped in the shaft, let me know I might have a good used dx shaft around here, but not sure If we still have It, or can even seperate it If so, would have top look. Good Luck with It, Greg
 
Thanks for the responses. I had no idea that they dealt in seconds, Jack. It's a shame and worth the heads up. In fact, I got this cue last summer and it seems too soon for a warp. CC, I looked at all the possible problems you mentioned in your post. I keep my threads squeaky clean and the butt and joints are sound, it looks to me. The warp is slight and exactly on the taper section.
Thanks the DX-8 shaft offer, btw. But I think if I buy another shaft it will be something better. What are the shafts that are compatible with my joint? One last question, do you think then it might not be worth it to try and recondition it because it will pop right back? I do not know of any home-made methods of reconditioning. If there is something I could do that wouldn't be done much more efficiently by a cue repairman, then I'll try it. I just don't know what the reconditioning process entails!
Thanks again.
 
anytime someone sells cues at 75-80% off (new), you should be suspect,,,always figured some would be okay and I could clear my investment and make a few bucks,,,I'd use the rest to experiment with,,my attempts to straighten does like 'Cue Crazy' said,,,they warp back in a short period of time,,,go to ebay, type in adam cue, read, most of the descriptions will say a "slight" variance (another word for WARP),,no doubt adam/helmstetter/balabushka/competition makes good cues,,,something must 'happen' to them from Japan to here.....go to www.adam-japan.com ...your browser probably won't translate Japanese, but you can click on the stuff on the left side of your screen and see a lot of cues NOT available to us in the USA...nobody has ever been able to give me a plausable answer why (they're not available to us ..............!
 
lewdo26 said:
Thanks for the responses. I had no idea that they dealt in seconds, Jack. It's a shame and worth the heads up. In fact, I got this cue last summer and it seems too soon for a warp. CC, I looked at all the possible problems you mentioned in your post. I keep my threads squeaky clean and the butt and joints are sound, it looks to me. The warp is slight and exactly on the taper section.
Thanks the DX-8 shaft offer, btw. But I think if I buy another shaft it will be something better. What are the shafts that are compatible with my joint? One last question, do you think then it might not be worth it to try and recondition it because it will pop right back? I do not know of any home-made methods of reconditioning. If there is something I could do that wouldn't be done much more efficiently by a cue repairman, then I'll try it. I just don't know what the reconditioning process entails!
Thanks again.



I am glad, because i would have felt bad, I looked around alittle for the shaft and could not find It anyway, so must have sold It to one of our customers. We have a few regulars that have cues from that series, so someone probably bought It for an extra. I sold a set of caps for one last night as a matter of fact. I have not had any shafts from those come in warped that bad yet as far as I have noticed, no more runout then most shafts have when I mount them in the lathe, and the humidity It high here. could have just been a good batch they came from If they are known for It. The reason I mentioned looking around the joint was, I have seen one that broke off right below the ss joint. Heard on the grapevine there was a quality control issue on a few that slipped through. one thing I do know was they shipped the guy a brand new one no questions asked.
Yes jack is correct, from my experience trying to fix a warped shaft is a waste of effort, Others may have a method, but to me that wood is just going to move where it wants no matter what you do. you could keep your cue hanging all the time, might help some, I've done that, but to be honest before the end of the night was out the thing had already moved back. the only way I know is to cut It out, but not usually an option with a used shaft. Guess It would depend on how severe the warp, but most cases would be a no go on that in my opinion.
Not sure what you are talking about on the refinshing, the warp, or refinishing a regular shaft without problems. My shaft work is all done on a lathe these days, I have done them By hand in the begining, a long time ago, and some of the methods I have used I could never recomend. It's always easy to spot a tip job done by hand, because alot of times the tip and end of the ferrule will be tapered from hand sanding, and I don't even want to mention what you can do to a shaft by hand. The only way to go in my opinion knowing what I know now, is with the use of atleast a wood lathe with the proper centers to refinish a shaft. usually there are actually 2 finishes on a shaft, the part up by the ring work finished the same as the butt section, and a shaft sealer on the taper part in some cases. If I do the part around the rings also, then I consider the job a total restoration, It takes alot longer, and many sessions to do properly in most cases. the one you should have done most often to keep your shaft in good shape & clean requires cleaning and resealing the taper/stroking area of the shaft, and evening the ferrule with the wood if needed. that can be done in one sitting by any good cue repair guy with the proper equipment, and I would consider that just regular maintainence, or a partial restore. Not sure I answered your question, but hope it helps. Greg
 
You were a lot of help indeed, CC. Now I'll have some information coming in to talk to my local cue repairman. Depending on the price I might try to recondition it just until I get a better shaft.
Thanks a lot.
 
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