schon ltd 202

Goose1972

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I noticed billiard warehouse was carrying a schon sh102 I believe. Which looks a lot like the ltd 202. Even says schon ltd on the butt. Is this the ltd 12 run. Or is sh102 different?
 
Same cue, change ringwork,buttcap,stain and you have another limited edition 12

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You can get mine with a lizard wrap for the same price
 
Confused the butt on billiard warehouse still says ltd. Is it ltd or sh. Butts u show don't look like they say anything. Are these ltd or sh. Are these held to 12. Are these official schon. Are all ltd and other limited production cues slightly changed and reproduced like this.
 
Yes other "limited"cues do the same just look at Dale Perry with his 1 of 1 cues.

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The SH Series Schon cues are made exclusively for J&J Cue Distributors. They can be like, or very similar to other Schon Models, with variations frequently in woods, ringwork, etc.

Like the Schon LTD models, the Schon SH models are made only in small quantity, normally about 12 cues per design, and so are marked Schon LTD, due to their one time production of 12 cues or less.

The SH Line is shown here:
http://www.classifiedbilliards.com/mybb/forumdisplay.php?fid=270

and here:
http://www.jjcue.com/schonltd1.htm
 
but i didnt see this on J&J exclusive, I saw this on billiards warehouse. How many exclusives with dealers are there. So the LTD cue i see on e-bay, is actually not a rare 1 in 12 find, but could be a 1 in a thousansd, depending on how many slight variations are made???

i'm new to all this, and this site, from the few threads i read, it seemed everyone was bashing dale perry for the 1of1 claims. which seems more honest then this timited run practice. hell have 2 cues up in a few days that look the same and call them each 1of1.

isnt limited edition of 12 supposed to mean 12. how are these differentiated does anyone even care what the original 12 are??? does it matter.

when schon balabushka replicas, come out in limited run. i guess i can expect that, a new identical limited run will be available at any website soon???

someone please educate me.
 
but i didnt see this on J&J exclusive, I saw this on billiards warehouse. How many exclusives with dealers are there. So the LTD cue i see on e-bay, is actually not a rare 1 in 12 find, but could be a 1 in a thousansd, depending on how many slight variations are made???

i'm new to all this, and this site, from the few threads i read, it seemed everyone was bashing dale perry for the 1of1 claims. which seems more honest then this timited run practice. hell have 2 cues up in a few days that look the same and call them each 1of1.

isnt limited edition of 12 supposed to mean 12. how are these differentiated does anyone even care what the original 12 are??? does it matter.

when schon balabushka replicas, come out in limited run. i guess i can expect that, a new identical limited run will be available at any website soon???

someone please educate me.

J&J I believe are kind of in the same pot as Cuestix international,,,,,,,,they both have cues made to their liking, then sell them wholesale to other "Stores" for retail purposes.
I believe the LTD means that each production run is 12 or less,,,,,,,but there may be more than 1 production run, with each varying to some degree,,,,,,,so the odds of ever seeing another LTD or SH exactly like yours are reasonably low.
 
gotcha, so the possiblity, of seeing another runoff of the schon balabushka replica, or any other cue is unlikely but more possible depending on demand of said cue.

and there is really no way of knowing the quantity of ltd cues as they all say ltd and could be slight variations much like dp 1of1 claim.

how do i tell the difference between the original ltd and an sh, when the descriptions and looks of them online are identical? is there official paperwork or something??
 
one more question.. the work on the ltd202 isyas ivory, sounds like real ivory is it. would the replica remake sh102 also be real ivory, or could this be imitation ivory, as it is a replica?

is it legal to even sell ivory in this day and age???
 
All Schons use real elephant ivory in their cues. It is ok to use the ivory from elephants that die from natural cases, in which case the import of their tusks is legal once the appropriate taxes are paid.

Limited editions say "ltd." on the butt cap. That's how you distinguish them.

A Schon is a Schon, no matter what it says on the butt cap. Just get the design you like.
 
Expect the butt cap and the ferrule, everything that is white on a Schon is Ivory.
Keeps it simple.
 
even on the reproductions.. and this is a common practice.. so limited cues, can and are remade, as demand demands i guess

i was just real confused as the cue i saw earlier today which sold on ebay was listed as a ltd202 when in fact it was a sh102.

value was pretty much the same. just wanted to make sure. the main parts where to. thanks for all the input.
 
Why do you think it was a SH-102 and not a LTD-202 they pretty much are the same.MY pics of my LTD-202 below



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Well, the images I have found show the LTD 202 as having rings at all positions. like this:
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Forearm Dark stained birdseye maple forearm with 6 long ebony points. Each point has an ivory spear and abalone diamond inlay.
Butt Sleeve Butt sleeve is solid ebony with 6 ivory spears and 6 abalone diamond inlays.
Joint Piloted 5/16x14 stainless steel joint.
Ring Work Triple Silver rings at C, D & E positions. Single silver ring at the A & B position


While J&J Lists the SH102 having Stitch rings,,,,like this
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Sometimes the changes are very slight,,,,,,notice a slight difference in the way the Diamond MOP inlay rests in the ivory spear inlay on the 102, yet has a gap around it on the 202.
 
Why do you think it was a SH-102 and not a LTD-202 they pretty much are the same.MY pics of my LTD-202 below



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Great question,,,,,,and I personally can't be certain of THE correct answer,,,,,this cue has both the Stitch rings as well as a gap between the spear and diamond inlays........I'd say in this case it just is what you bought it as,,,,,,both cues are equal in value anyway.

Beautiful LTD BTW,,,,,,,
 
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