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I was wondering if there was anyone who could verbally help me with my game a little without ever having seen me play? I know the rule of thumb is to watch a person play and then go from there, but right now I'm stuck on a tiny hunk of rock in the Pacific Ocean and there really isn't anyone here who is the type of player that I would turn to for instruction. Im just looking for the basics for some help with some problem areas that I know of myself like pushing the object ball away from the rail on a rail shot rather than following the rail and the mother of all my problems, long table shots, especially a straight shot. If anyone out there could just give me a little advice I would greatly appreciate it.
 
on the long table shot- take a good solid stance and when you shoot, make sure you do not move (especially jump up). Start practicing this shot softly with a good straight follow through and build up to making it with more speed. Once you feel condident that you can make the shot consistently, then you can start applying stop, follow, english, etc.

The number 1 solution to any problem you are having at pool is practice.

I can always tell how well my stroke is at any moment by shooting a long straight shot softly. If I am missing it then something is off.
 
Actually.... IMO, The number 1 solution to any problem you are having at pool is to correct it and practice it properly. BAD practice is the worst practice! JMO
knudsonjj- there is an American living near Seoul Korea who is a BCA Instructor. If you interested and have the time to HOP over the little river, let me know I'll get you his contact info. If you're ever in the Osan AB Korea area, look me up! I've been working with some players on their game.

Zim
 
JJ- I'm here until 03Dec03! What branch are you in? Any nice places to play there? My wife and I are trying to get stationed at Kadena AFB.

Zim
 
Zim,
Im here until 29dec03. There is only one place to play "decent" tables over here, other than that it's only the bars, and most of them have very crappy tables, but I have found a few that are ok. As for tournements, unheard of here except for the sporadic bar tournements, but even those have a lot of problems with things like rules, plus don't think you are getting a tournement atmosphere in amy of those. Usually if you don't drink or atleast stay sober you can clean up for a $50- $100. Serious pool over here doesn't exist except among the Japanese, but they don't take to well to us round eyes.

J J
 
Wow! Sorry to hear about that! Here at Osan we have 3, 8' tables that I try to maintain. They are pretty good though, maybe a slight roll once in a while, but I level them, if needed, every month. We have 9 ball tourneys on Sundays and 8 ball tourneys on Wednesdays, no entry fees and the club pays you in "club bucks" (good for food/drinks at the club only). We try to have an open tourney once a month or close to it, $10 entry and pays top 4-6 places usually. Downtown off base...pretty much every club/bar has 9' tables and are normally in good condition. Not too many Korean players around here, but plenty of players. If you can run at least 4 balls, you can run with the guys downtown.

Zim
 
Aah the long straight shot.
The most common thing I have noticed with this shot is the tendancy for the shooter to take his/her eyes off the object ball and look at the pocket during the final delivery.
 
I don't think hitting it softly to start out with is such a good idea, JMO! Some tables may have a slight roll to it, and I would recommend a medium stroke to start out with. Just a natural stroke, not too soft, not too hard! Focus your eyes on the contact point of the OB!

Zim
 
yea i have the same long shot problem if i'm not aiming for a pocket i'm good for about 50%. no long banks they almost don't exist with me but i am working on them everyday. I quickly made a drawing at work showing my fav long bank. at least 2 times a game i have a chance to hit this in one pocket so i get alot of pratice with it.
 

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Here's a shot I practice. This shot will detect any errors in your stroke or aim immediately.

The diagram requires the use of the WEI table. If you haven't used it before, here are the directions. Highlight this stuff (all of it, including the START and END tags):

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Right click and choose copy. Click on this link to bring up the WEI table: WEI Table. Now, just click on the PASTE button on the lower right hand side of the diagram. Click OK twice, and you should see the shot I've diagrammed. If you don't see a table when you click the above link, you probably don't have Flash installed. Click this link to get it: Shockwave Flash .

Anyway, the diagram shows a shot which will detect errors in aiming or stroke. The idea is to pocket the 1 ball and have the CB stop dead. If the CB moves back, you're hitting too low on the CB. If the CB moves forward, you're hitting too high or too soft on the CB. If the OB goes to the right of the pocket, obviously you need to adjust your aim to the right. The converse of this last statement is also true. When picking out the aiming point, try a couple of different techniques. Most people eyeball the OB and aim for the center of the OB. To me, that's kind of difficult. I aim for the very top of the OB, which is also the center of the OB. For me, that's easier to pick out. Then all you have to do is line up the top of the CB with the top of the OB and you're in line (as long as you're shooting a straight shot with no sidespin). You can also aim for the point where the OB touches the cloth, which can be hard to detect in poorly lit rooms. When you get to a point where you can duplicate this shot 10 times in a row, try drawing the CB back to where you started. Once you've done that 10 times in a row, try to follow the OB into the pocket (that's a lot harder than it sounds!). This will all ensure that you're hitting the CB on the vertical axis, which means no unintended sidespin is being applied (it is extremely rare to need sidespin on a long straight shot). If you can do that consistently, then you know you're eye is pretty good on the CB.

djb
 
you might want to check if you're cueing straight. set up a straight shot, get down on the shot, and when you think you're lined up, lay the cue down on the table. now step back and check if the cue is lined up straight with the shot.

if you're cueing straight, then you're addressing the CB other than where you think.

lay all the balls on the table and use the "ghost ball" on all of them just to see if you know where the contact point is.
 
thats a good tip bruin, it reminds me of an exercise that i do to also make sure my stroke is straight.

putting a ball on the spot and positioning the cue ball a foot or foot and a half away from the ball lined up straight for either corner pocket. address the shot like you would any other shot and when you get down on it, close you eyes or turn your head away when you shoot it in the hole. if you are missing it, something is wrong with your 'pre shot routine'.
 
accdealer said:
thats a good tip bruin, it reminds me of an exercise that i do to also make sure my stroke is straight.

putting a ball on the spot and positioning the cue ball a foot or foot and a half away from the ball lined up straight for either corner pocket. address the shot like you would any other shot and when you get down on it, close you eyes or turn your head away when you shoot it in the hole. if you are missing it, something is wrong with your 'pre shot routine'.

closing your eyes or looking away is a good idea too. the FEELING of whether your stroke is straight becomes more intensified also. practising with an open bridge forced me to stroke straight because no closed bridge made me more careful.

since people are so accustomed to doing things a certain way(by habit, and thus hard to break), forcing yourself to do something that requires a correct approach is a good practise.
 
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