Sniper tips NOT a medium, but soft?

Gregg

Gregg

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I am just trying to get a gage for some of the tips I have been trying/testing, and I hate when I get mixed reviews of what hardness particular tips are. Some use the Muller chart; other say they are full of crap, etc.

For example, I read that a Sniper tip is a medium, and have other people, like my cue repair guy, calling them a soft tip.

I know what I like, but where can I get info. that I can rely on to compare tip hardness, without tying out 40 different tips for myself?
 
ive heard them called hard tips.... lol. Ive used sniper for a year, now i have a moori.. sniper is 50x better. NEVER mushrooms. Moori mushrooms in 2 days use.

Grab the sniper, regardless of hard or soft, it has a ton of action, and never mushrooms.

When you decide ont he best tip LET ME KNOW! im in the market for a new tip as well (moori sucks!) Ive heard good things about sumo's ?? and talisman pro hard??
 
prolecat said:
ive heard them called hard tips.... lol. Ive used sniper for a year, now i have a moori.. sniper is 50x better. NEVER mushrooms. Moori mushrooms in 2 days use.

Grab the sniper, regardless of hard or soft, it has a ton of action, and never mushrooms.

When you decide ont he best tip LET ME KNOW! im in the market for a new tip as well (moori sucks!) Ive heard good things about sumo's ?? and talisman pro hard??
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I'm on the Sniper thing right now. Feels great.
 
prolecat said:
Ive heard good things about sumo's ?? and talisman pro hard??
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All the Talismans are good, IMHO, with the exception of the waterbuffalo hard tip, and the Talisman break tip. I suppose if you want to use a tip for breaking the WBs and the break tips are alright, however for whatever reason I never ended up liking them.

For breaking, I like the Talisman Pro Hard pigskin tip, lots of power, plenty of action if that's what you want, and very controllable.

For regular use on a cue, I've come to the conclusion that either the Talisman medium or the soft fill the ticket, with the medium getting the nod in general.

An advantage of the Talisman tips, unlike the Mooris that I've used (all of them) is that while the Moori will tend to glaze over after a while and needs scuffing to avoid miscues, the Talismans I've used never need to be scuffed after they are shaped and broken in. For me, that amounts to taking a cue ball, chalking the tip profusely, and pounding the cue ball against the tip, which I shape at about a dime radius, but which ends up being somewhere between a dime and nickel radius after the pounding. After 250 or so shaping/poundings with the cue ball, chalk 'er up again, and start shooting. No more breaking in needed! And after that, forget about scuffing, just chalk before each shot...

Flex
 
Gregg said:
I am just trying to get a gage for some of the tips I have been trying/testing, and I hate when I get mixed reviews of what hardness particular tips are. Some use the Muller chart; other say they are full of crap, etc.

For example, I read that a Sniper tip is a medium, and have other people, like my cue repair guy, calling them a soft tip.

I know what I like, but where can I get info. that I can rely on to compare tip hardness, without tying out 40 different tips for myself?
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Looking at the Mueller hardness ratings, the Sniper is shown as a Medium tip with a rating of 66.9, which puts is below most of the other medium tips, but above the soft tips. It seems to be filling a gap between the medium and the soft tips.

Actually, it may be just what I have been looking for. I may have to give them a try. :D
 
i bought a bunch of diff tips of ebay a few weeks back, sniper, talisman, le pro, triangle, in different hardnesses. Im gonna try several different ones over the next month or two and see what i like. Putting a sniper on right now. Ill post up my impressions.
 
I would not use the Mueller chart as it uses a durometer to judge hardness. How the tip feels and plays once broke in should be the guide. Here is what I suggest. Take a Lepro and use it as the guide to judge off of. I call LePro Medium Hard. Sniper would be softer than LePro, but only a little so I would call it a Medium. If you always use the LePro as your reference point you can decide if you want something harder or softer and how much either way. Forget the charts and ask how they feel and play compared to a LePro. The Triangle and Sniper hit very similarly, but most charts rate Triangle harder than LePro even though it plays softer once both are broke in. You cannot trust rubber durometers to tell you how a tip will play.
Chris
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