Soft break in 8 ball on a bar table?

rubyrubin said:
I would like to add that even on the good tables, a break and run is extremely rare....much rarer than a run out after a dry break, therefore, I *still* believe that it is an advantage NOT to break!

- Aaron

In addition to trying the soft breaks, check out Colin Colenso's power break instructional video, if you haven't already. It might just turn a power break into a good thing on your tables, at least the good tables. It has done wonders for my break. Until I watched the video, I was basically doing everything the opposite of what Colin suggests. LOL.
 
I've had a few experience's with having to play on shytty bar tables during APA 8ball leagues.

Last year at our APA city tournament, they held it at a bowling alley/bar so they rented a bunch of actual bar tables. And every rail was dead and the cloth was carpet.
The team I played on had two guys who could crush the 8ball rack, and the first guy gets up during his match and just blasts the rack, and you could see the rack explode, but after the balls hit a rail they died! And he didnt make anything on the break.
So after the first game he just went to a soft break, and would let the other guy run a bunch of balls and then when he would miss, our guy would clean up the table.
Even our other big gun shooter was using a soft break cuz he tried crushing the rack and ended up doing nothing but leaving the table wide open for the other guy to clear.

Then last yr in the fall, i joined a Tuesday Travelling APA 8ball league and had to play outa the same SHYT HOLE. And had to deal with the same problem too. And God forbid you had to come off a rail using english lol the CB would just die !
Using english was kinda a crap shot because even using low english to kill the CB, would throw off your shot cuz of the slow carpet felt.
 
I_Need_D_8 said:
That's easy. Because when hitting at 60-70 precent speed, the CB bends slightly away from the headball.

The thread's about a VNEA league...7', dirty bar tables. You don't often see that effect on a bar table.

The CB deflection off of the stick is much greater in this situation, IMO. 60-70% is still pretty hard!

-s
 
Just do this ...

This is not against the rules (BCA) and is a legal break. Contrary to popular belief, you are not limited to any balls being struck first on breaking.


Just break from side rail. Hit the foot rail first with straight high and try to hit
right between the 2nd and 3rd ball on the back row. Balls go out, cue ball
sticks to back of rack.
 
Before the 8-ball tournament started in Reno last week, I saw Ike Runnels practicing what looked to be some sort of one pocket break. He was actually practicing his 8-ball soft break. It ended up working very well for him, and he did well in the tournament (driving a few players crazy as well).

Think he was hitting second ball slowly and leaving the cue ball on the bottom cushion.
 
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