South Bend Model A Lathe

jwe711

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Can anyone tell me about this lathe?

How much is it worth?

Would anyone be interested in it?

What value does it offer to making cues?

The plate states that it has a 3 1/2 bed...I'm assuming that it's 3'6" bed rail?

It comes built onto the desk and has a pan to catch the coolant...all factory, Everything works, I'm told.

THANKS
jwe711
 
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First off, you need to find out if it's the one with the 1 3/8" hole through headstock. I can tell you now that the bed's not long enough to chuck up a butt or shaft between centers. The bed size on there includes the space where the headstock is mounted leaving you with probably about 24inches of usable space, but there's still a lot of operations that you can do on a lathe like that. I have the 10 inch South Bend with the 4 1/2' bed for my main lathe. I changed out the 1 HP, 1750 RPM 3ph 220V motor for a 2 HP, 3500 RPM 1ph 120/240V motor which solved several issues for me. I no longer needed 3ph or a phase converter, it gave me double the speed (which works great for woodworking) and I could use either 120 or 240 volt power which gave me options on where I could set up the lathe without rewiring.

Of all the lathes I own (about 15 I think) I LOVE THE SOUTH BEND! It runs like a swiss watch. Has had only 1 breakdown in 20 years and I run it at twice the normal speed! That baby really sings! And it runs very true with front and back chucks and will do almost all cue operations itself though I have a bunch of dedicated machines set up to do the different tasks for efficiency.


just more hot air!


Sherm
 
There are two things that you need in a metal lathe to make it cue worthy.

1.) Adequate head-stock spindle bore, preferably 1-3/8" or larger.

2.) At least 30" btwn. centers, again, preferably more with matching carriage travel.

Most any lathe that meets that basic criteria is capable of building cues.
That's of course assuming the operator knows what he's doing. Lol
 
That would be a good second function lathe. With some modifications you can do tips, ferrules, points and forearms on it. But no full length butt work.
 
I have one of those machines. The spindle hole is just big enough to get a shaft through. It has solid bearings on the headstock that require oil all the time. The belt drive is very quiet. For small metal work it is a great little machine but is not long enough for tapering shafts or butts. With a bearing steady rest you could machine A joints, make butt sleeves, or cut points like Chris said but for complete cue building it is not going to cut it without major modification. It would make a great one use machine. Price a couple hundred depends on tooling.

John
 
I had that exact same lathe

It served me well for maybe ten years and i sold it last Christmas for almost $1000 ! Mine was in excellent shape, clean and with three chucks and a QR import tool post. The through hole is just big enough for tip work, not large enough for most cue work.. You will not taper a shaft or butt with it. Yes the bed length on the plate includes the bed taken up by the headstock and the tailstock. That was Southbend's method of describing lathe length, kind of strange. It is excellent for making your own custom joint screws, and making jigs for various cue building tasks. My model A had factory ball bearings. Though some older representatives of this model had poured in place Babbit. The Babbit is actually more accurate than any ball or roller bearing, but also much more intolerant of abuse. And making new Babbit bearings is kind of an art in itself.
If you buy this lathe for $200 as someone said, and it is in working order, it is a real bargain ! Go for it! I paid $450 originally then added a homemade welded steel stand, the toolpost and 2 chucks. The lathe I bought was not worn much and seen only home use by a retired tool and die maker. Use that to weigh a price for yours. I could find a 12x36 or bigger for what I sold mine for, but someone appreciated it and paid me the full asking price without haggling. He said he had been looking for a nice condition South Bend for two years! Also here in the rust belt lathes are not hard to come by, it's just good cond lathes that are rare.
 
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Hey Guys,

Thank You Very Much!

I really appreciate the feedback.

Overall, it sounds as though it needs to be a really good price to counter the fact that it isn't a stand alone cue making lathe.

And, it sounds that, it will be a good addition to an existing shop that already has a full length lathe.

Thanks,
jwe
 
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