Straight pool break shot ghost

Tin Man

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I've been disappointed with my straight pool performance the last year. I am hitting them pretty strong playing 9/10 ball and 8 ball, but in straight pool I continue to stall out at pretty unimpressive numbers. I feel at the level I play at I should be able to post much higher runs. At first this was just irritating and nagged at me but it wasn't a big deal because I don't really compete at straight pool. But then I realized whatever the weak link was it might help me to identify it and work on it.

It quickly became obvious it was the break shot. Once the balls were broken I had no trouble running through the rack, picking another break shot, and even saving a good key ball and sequence leading up to it. Yet a surprising number of times I'd get bad on the break ball, miss the break ball, get stuck on the rack, or draw up table and miss my next shot. I've posted some good runs in the past and figured I was just having an off day or getting lazy, but over time I've concluded I am indeed weak in this area. To run 100 you need to execute 7 consecutive break shots in a row. If you're 50/50 that means 1/256. Factor in running the other balls of the table in between break shots and you can see that it would likely take 1,000 attempts. I have run 100 a few times but I've also had many, many failed attempts. So I really need to work on this. My confidence is just really low in this area.

My latest practice sessions involve me playing a race to 9 against the straight pool 'break shot ghost'. I set up a break shot, roughly speaking 40% on the left side of the rack, 40% on the right side, 10% behind the stack, and 10% non-traditional (side pocket, side rail, etc). Then I put 3 other balls on the table, not connect the dots with a dream key ball, but not tricky or tied up balls either. I then take ball in hand. The goal is to run the three balls, get on the break shot, make it, spread some balls, and make the next shot to get control of the table.

It's not perfect as you have to make some judgement calls, i.e. sometimes I count it as a miss if I get stuck on the rack and get lucky to have a ball go cross side and hang on a pocket, and I don't shoot hail mary shots. But in general it's a really good way to make sure that your time at the table is spent doing what is needed to get better. If I had John Schmidt shooting those 5 shots for me I am quite confident I could clean up the rack and get him a good last four balls consistently, so this is what I have to do if I want to post better runs. I also do score visualization, saying '14' to myself on the first break ball, then '28' when I am shooting the second, all the way until I dog one. It's funny, when I have 5 in a row and I'm announcing 'run of 70' to myself I can actually feel the pressure build the same way as when I'm actually running the balls.

My scores are dismal, like 9-7 and 9-6, again, not much better than 50/50. My high run is 5 in a row which would explain why I'm not breaking 70 very often. But I've only done this twice so I'll give it time.

Of course I also spend time just rifling in individual shots in break ball position so I can pocket a bunch without having to slow down and rack. But taking the time to practice getting on it and actually breaking open a rack is very valuable to me as well.

I am hoping I improve at this over the next month so I can start posting up more regular 100s. I'll keep you guys posted. I was going to start my own thread announcing I was going after JS's 626 but I have decided to respect his wishes and give him a year ;)
 
Third set 9-1. Feels good. Break shot 7 was from behind the stack and I got a funny kiss and ended up on the end rail. Had no good shot.

This post wasn't just aimed at straight pool by the way. The other point is that if you're struggling with something you can meet it dead on. It's easy to try to practice something for 10 shots and then get discouraged, or shoot it until you make it a couple of times one session. But if you want to get better you should always be practicing. A good routine is to have a few things you are working on, then as you play evaluate your performance so have some ideas on deck that you want to rotate in to your line up. There should be some core drills you always keep, some things you've been working on for a while, then some new things to add. Maybe you can't do them all every day, but they can blend together over a week's worth of practice. Usually I keep the area specific drills from a few sessions to a few months depending on my satisfaction with my progress.

We have the time. We don't have to get there by the end of the practice session. Just keep taking steps.
 
IMy latest practice sessions involve me playing a race to 9 against the straight pool 'break shot ghost'. I set up a break shot, roughly speaking 40% on the left side of the rack, 40% on the right side, 10% behind the stack, and 10% non-traditional (side pocket, side rail, etc). Then I put 3 other balls on the table, not connect the dots with a dream key ball, but not tricky or tied up balls either. I then take ball in hand. The goal is to run the three balls, get on the break shot, make it, spread some balls, and make the next shot to get control of the table.
Somebody famous said the last five balls in the rack are the most important - he might even have described a drill like yours. Great minds...

I am hoping I improve at this over the next month so I can start posting up more regular 100s. I'll keep you guys posted. I was going to start my own thread announcing I was going after JS's 626 but I have decided to respect his wishes and give him a year ;)
Good luck - I'll be interested to hear.

Nice of you to give John a break.

pj
chgo
 
Tin man, granted I am nowhere near the player you are, but I did start practicing straight pool recently (okay, only three times out) because of John Schmidt bringing so much attention to straight pool (to the non-casual fan). First time out, I struggled with the break shot and realized I was doing a bit of that 8-ball-itis thing. I was shooting it unlike my normal shots. I had to start viewing the break shot differently than I had been and start ensuring that I was playing the cueball position and letting my aiming skill make the break ball like most any other shot. If I had done the “14.1 Break Ghost” like you describe, I think I would have been destroyed my first day out 2-9, but think I would have won easily the next two times out. Maybe I’ll keep track next time.

If I could only stop goofing around in between, which is my downfall. Other than sucking.


Freddie <~~~ maybe needs a month at Easy Street
 
yo I love to see the schmidt effect inspiring others in a positive way..
I've been doing short races vs. myself where I start with a full rack and play safe (no science to this, I've only ever done it this way)
and in just a week I've already seen improvements in my game physically, and mentally.
of course this is all relative (got room in the suck club, fred?) but I'm really enjoying the game, too, which is important to me, especially whilst on my quest to shoot gooder.
I don't know how anybody can denigrate what john has done..however many runs he has of 400+ is nuts, but 626 is off the charts!!
man's an absolute star to me..and it's not all about numbers..
 
I've been disappointed with my straight pool performance the last year. I am hitting them pretty strong playing 9/10 ball and 8 ball, but in straight pool I continue to stall out at pretty unimpressive numbers. I feel at the level I play at I should be able to post much higher runs. At first this was just irritating and nagged at me but it wasn't a big deal because I don't really compete at straight pool. But then I realized whatever the weak link was it might help me to identify it and work on it.

It quickly became obvious it was the break shot. Once the balls were broken I had no trouble running through the rack, picking another break shot, and even saving a good key ball and sequence leading up to it. Yet a surprising number of times I'd get bad on the break ball, miss the break ball, get stuck on the rack, or draw up table and miss my next shot. I've posted some good runs in the past and figured I was just having an off day or getting lazy, but over time I've concluded I am indeed weak in this area. To run 100 you need to execute 7 consecutive break shots in a row. If you're 50/50 that means 1/256. Factor in running the other balls of the table in between break shots and you can see that it would likely take 1,000 attempts. I have run 100 a few times but I've also had many, many failed attempts. So I really need to work on this. My confidence is just really low in this area.

My latest practice sessions involve me playing a race to 9 against the straight pool 'break shot ghost'. I set up a break shot, roughly speaking 40% on the left side of the rack, 40% on the right side, 10% behind the stack, and 10% non-traditional (side pocket, side rail, etc). Then I put 3 other balls on the table, not connect the dots with a dream key ball, but not tricky or tied up balls either. I then take ball in hand. The goal is to run the three balls, get on the break shot, make it, spread some balls, and make the next shot to get control of the table.

It's not perfect as you have to make some judgement calls, i.e. sometimes I count it as a miss if I get stuck on the rack and get lucky to have a ball go cross side and hang on a pocket, and I don't shoot hail mary shots. But in general it's a really good way to make sure that your time at the table is spent doing what is needed to get better. If I had John Schmidt shooting those 5 shots for me I am quite confident I could clean up the rack and get him a good last four balls consistently, so this is what I have to do if I want to post better runs. I also do score visualization, saying '14' to myself on the first break ball, then '28' when I am shooting the second, all the way until I dog one. It's funny, when I have 5 in a row and I'm announcing 'run of 70' to myself I can actually feel the pressure build the same way as when I'm actually running the balls.

My scores are dismal, like 9-7 and 9-6, again, not much better than 50/50. My high run is 5 in a row which would explain why I'm not breaking 70 very often. But I've only done this twice so I'll give it time.

Of course I also spend time just rifling in individual shots in break ball position so I can pocket a bunch without having to slow down and rack. But taking the time to practice getting on it and actually breaking open a rack is very valuable to me as well.

I am hoping I improve at this over the next month so I can start posting up more regular 100s. I'll keep you guys posted. I was going to start my own thread announcing I was going after JS's 626 but I have decided to respect his wishes and give him a year ;)


lol.

Here's what I know: work on your end patterns but start further out than just working the last three balls. Over time you will see that some patterns work better for you than others.

Lou Figueroa
 
lol.

Here's what I know: work on your end patterns but start further out than just working the last three balls. Over time you will see that some patterns work better for you than others.

Lou Figueroa

I think this is great advice- it is usually much more often that the last 5 to 8 balls reveal the best pattern to get to a key ball to the break ball - not just the last 3 or 4 on the table. Especially when trying for ideal stop shots on the last 2 before the break ball. Also, one thing that REALLY helps in making the break ball consistently is create a mindset where you are JUST shooting the break ball as a stand alone shot, we all often flinch a bit on break shots BECAUSE we have that rack AND the RESULT somewhere in our mind. Of course PRE-DETERMINE where the cue ball will hit the rack from where it and the break ball are positioned, and PRE- DETERMINE the stroke and any english needed to hit the rack most effectively AND free up the cue for the result. BUT once you do that, create that mindset of just execution of a stand alone shot- without the rack- if you are not doing all of this already- I will guarantee better results. Hope it helps.
 
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