Strange Find?

[Cue Crazy]

I got a mooch ferrule job today. It is an original, and the shaft is still in decent shape minus being dirty and needing a ferrule. Can't tell if the ferrule is original, but it still has the larger oversized tenon, and has'nt been turned smaller yet.
The thing I found strange was there was around a .098 gap between the face of the ferrule and the face of the tenon, and the area inside was filled with with a rubber type glue simular to the feel of contact cement or something, as if it just has'nt been faced all the way down to the tenon face. It's possible that's the area is filled with the same glue used to hold the ferrule on, so I'm not ruling that out either here.

My dad suggested maybe whoever did the ferrule, did this to soften the hit, but I can't see why someone would want to do it that way. I tend to think that it was just never faced down flush with the tenon after gluing for whatever reasoning besides that, or that if they had faced them even, they would have missed their target lenth, and that's possibly the reasoning for the gap.

Ofcoarse this won't be repeated on My watch, but just curious if anyone else has run into this, or has a clue as to why the ferrule was done this way? I've run into this type thing many times before, but rarely was the gap that deep.

Thanks, Greg

 

[ratcues]

I see things like that on occasion. Most likely, it is an inexperienced person installing the ferrule and tip. They do not know how or have the means to face the ferrule off so they fill the gap with glue.

 

[Birk1]

that air gap was part of meucci's low deflection specs. He was more a less a pioneer of reducing the end mass of a shaft with a light thin ferrule and a hollow gap below the tip similar to predator shafts. interesting aint it.

 

[ratcues]

that air gap was part of meucci's low deflection specs. He was more a less a pioneer of reducing the end mass of a shaft with a light thin ferrule and a hollow gap below the tip similar to predator shafts. interesting aint it.

Meucci uses a capped ferrule so the tenon is not exposed. He also tapers the tenon but there is a gap and very little glue.

 

[Jack Flanagan]

Meucci uses a capped ferrule so the tenon is not exposed. He also tapers the tenon but there is a gap and very little glue.

?? I've repaired/replaced hundreds of Meucci ferrules & tips,,,have never encountered a capped ferrule,,,is this something they started in the last few years,,,never seen one on a meucci,,,,jflan

 

[rhncue]

?? I've repaired/replaced hundreds of Meucci ferrules & tips,,,have never encountered a capped ferrule,,,is this something they started in the last few years,,,never seen one on a meucci,,,,jflan

They started it at least 8 years ago, at least on some cues. The first I seen was on Buddy Hall's cue at the U.S. Open one pocket tournament in Kallamazoo. He was using a Meucci and broke his ferrule and brought it over to me to repair. I told him I had never seen one assembled like that before.

Dick

 

[Cue Crazy]

Yeah, this cue is one of the old ones & uncapped, In fact most I've worked on were uncapped. I had to refinish the joint on It too. The ferrule on It was just over 1-1/4 long with the big tenon and thin side walls that they had. I've replaced many of them, but this was the first time I saw this pocket on the end of of one. I've seen it before, but usually on a repair. Possible that was the case here too, because the shaft was in dire need of refinishing, and It's unlikely the ferrule made it that long due to the thin walls, but It looked original.

 

[ratcues]

?? I've repaired/replaced hundreds of Meucci ferrules & tips,,,have never encountered a capped ferrule,,,is this something they started in the last few years,,,never seen one on a meucci,,,,jflan

He use them on the Black Dot shafts and claimed they had a lifetime warranty. It was some "special" material that wasn't supposed to crack.